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Old 12-01-2009, 08:57   #16
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Salahis: ‘We were invited, not crashers’
Couple are ‘devastated’ by label, cooperating with Secret Service
They really should make up their minds.

This has the same ring as the UFO family who wanted something sensational to up the attention of the nation immediately prior to a reality show.
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Old 12-03-2009, 08:32   #17
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And here's how they did it.

LOL! The great American wise-a** sense of humor - ya gotta love it!

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Old 12-03-2009, 16:48   #18
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And here's how they did it.

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Old 12-04-2009, 00:13   #19
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The Secret Service is taking too much of the blame for this screw up. IMHO the fault should rest with the White House staffers.
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Old 12-04-2009, 00:36   #20
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Funny thing I learned the other day... a good former high school buddy of mine is one of the Marines pictured below He's been trying to get out of presidential detail for awhile, said he's done it long enough and wants to do something else
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Old 12-04-2009, 06:22   #21
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Funny thing I learned the other day... a good former high school buddy of mine is one of the Marines pictured below He's been trying to get out of presidential detail for awhile, said he's done it long enough and wants to do something else
This could work as a Win-Win-Win.
All your buddy has to do is admit he snuck them in. This will blow over and to show his gratitude POTUS will send your buddy to Iraq.
The gate crashers get a reality Show called: The Jezebel, the Jerk, and The Jarhead
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Old 12-04-2009, 09:04   #22
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The Secret Service is taking too much of the blame for this screw up. IMHO the fault should rest with the White House staffers.
Disagree. The Secret Service allowed someone who was not on the approved list, into the White House for a State Function, where they had physical contact with the President. Kind of falls into their job description I think.
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Old 12-04-2009, 10:58   #23
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The Secret Service isn't blameless, they're just taking too much of the blame for this screw-up while the social secretary staffers claim immunity. IMHO the Congress should be allowed to question all those who were at the gate the night these two bimbos got in...emails, WH idiots, bimbos, et al.
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Old 12-04-2009, 17:23   #24
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Shoulda been a gang of protocol staffers checking the invites of 'every' guest as the WH security police and SS observed and secured the entrance.

FUBAR!

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Old 12-04-2009, 18:03   #25
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My concern is that for the second time in less than a year, people who should not have had access to the American president did.

I understand that perfect security is impossible. Yet, I cringe to think what might have happened had these attention whoring asshats not been content just to throw shoes or to point a skank at the President of the United States.

Let me be clear. I cannot think of an American living or dead whom I hold in greater contempt than the current president. Even so, my seventh grade home room teacher, a liberal, put it best as he restrained himself from assaulting a classmate who took pleasure in the assassination attempt on President Reagan, and shouted "THAT'S MY PRESIDENT!"

MOO, anyone who willfully evades or circumvents any current or former president's security detail should be treated as a mortal enemy of the republic.

YMMV.

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Old 12-04-2009, 21:03   #26
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Agreed. Like the nutjob that was waving an AK around shooting at the WH when "Porkchop and Pickle" were residing there. Didn't care for the residents yet numbnuts was shooting at my WH. He needed a 7.62X39 enema, statim.
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Old 12-04-2009, 22:01   #27
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I'd be happy if BHO pulled an old Teddy Roosevelt hand shaking event this Christmas or New Year's Day.

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Old 12-05-2009, 02:27   #28
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This could work as a Win-Win-Win.
All your buddy has to do is admit he snuck them in. This will blow over and to show his gratitude POTUS will send your buddy to Iraq.
The gate crashers get a reality Show called: The Jezebel, the Jerk, and The Jarhead
That's pretty funny.

Yeah, I thought it might have been him when I first heard about it as it said the Salahi's had pictures with three Marines at the WH but I figured he probably wasn't on rotation. Sure enough though, I saw his Dad at a HS basketball game selling concessions the other night and we chatted about it, well more like laughed about it. His Dad was saying he hopes the Secret Service will take the blame for it haha. It's even funnier because my friend wasn't someone who you would think would get to guard (reality = door stop) the president someday. Hilarious actually.
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Old 12-05-2009, 04:49   #29
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My concern is that for the second time in less than a year, people who should not have had access to the American president did.
Agree with you. And Secret Service IS responsible (if they, in fact, weren't on "the list"). Regardless, a background check should have been run.

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Let me be clear. I cannot think of an American living or dead whom I hold in greater contempt than the current president.
That's a pretty high bar [or low bar as it were].

Hasan and Maurice Clemmons come to mind. Unless you imply they renounced their American citizenship when they rejected our society and became traitors to it by turns arms against our own.

And given that the rogues galley of Muslim Brotherhood actors in this country don't consider themselves Americans,
your statement implies you don't either. Neither do I.


SO, he might be in the top ten list of least trusted. Some of the things he's said in the last 12 months constitute sedition. And his silent endorsement of others statements (Jerry Wright anyone?) are also reprehensible for someone who aspired to the highest office in the land.

And he needs to be shown the door by the American People as soon as possible. Realistically 2012 is about the best we can hope for right now. Barring a Republican landslide in 2010 followed by a scandal, impeachment isn't looking good.

In the mean time, guess we'll have to settle for the traditional American political evisceration with a President that polls under 50% and enjoys less than the support of the governed. Under ordinary circumstances, that would get the attention of the elected to right their course. But these are no ordinary times.

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Lest we spend anymore time on this "issue"...

December 3, 2009
HOEKSTRA: Fort Hood shooting must be probed ASAP
Rep. Peter Hoekstra
Washington Times
OPINION/ANALYSIS:

Army Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan's murderous rampage at Fort Hood last month that killed 13 was a wake-up call on the continuing threat to our nation from radical Islam and the growing problem of homegrown terrorism. We need to quickly launch a thorough investigation and congressional hearings to understand these threats and how to defend our nation from them.

Unfortunately, not only is there is a lack of urgency to investigate the Fort Hood, Texas, shooting from the Obama administration and congressional Democrats, but there has been a troubling refusal by Obama officials to acknowledge that the shooting likely was an act of homegrown terrorism.

How can it be that the House Committee on Homeland Security has launched an investigation and called hearings within a week to look into the couple who crashed a recent White House state dinner, yet a month after Fort Hood there has yet to be a single congressional hearing into the Fort Hood attack?

I fear that our nation is returning to the naive security outlook of Sept. 10, 2001, when radical Islamic terrorist attacks were considered law enforcement and criminal problems and not threats to our national security.

It is urgent that we immediately begin to better develop the record of the Fort Hood shooting as a possible case of homegrown terrorism and investigate the intelligence failures that prevented it from being detected. Americans underestimate the threat from homegrown terrorism. The president said it is inconceivable that this would happen in America. Wrong. It is not inconceivable and is a growing global problem that needs to be addressed.

During 2009, there were arrests of persons allegedly planning homegrown terrorist attacks in New York, Chicago, North Carolina and Atlanta. Russia recently has seen several alleged homegrown terrorism attacks, including a train bombing and an attack against a gas storage facility. There were horrific homegrown terrorist attacks in Madrid in 2004 and London in 2005. In 2006, 18 homegrown terrorists were arrested in Toronto. It has happened here and will happen again if we don't act. We cannot wish it away.

We need to understand how homegrown terrorism works if we are to identify and stop homegrown terrorists before they carry out acts of violence. How are al Qaeda leaders and other radical jihadists recruiting and radicalizing homegrown terrorists? A principle route seems to be the Internet. We know that Maj. Hasan was in contact via the Internet with radical Islamic cleric Anwar al-Awlaki and that Mr. al-Awlaki's sermons have influenced would-be homegrown terrorists in the United States and the terrorists who launched the deadly 2005 London subway bombings.

Mr. al-Awlaki, who was born in the U.S. and speaks perfect English, has been using his own Web page, social-networking sites such as Facebook, and e-mail to preach a message of violence to English speaking Muslims around the world. We need to better understand how Mr. al-Awlaki and other radical jihadist figures are using new technologies to recruit and communicate with their homegrown followers.

We also need to understand how radical Jihadist groups are being financed. It has been reported that Maj. Hasan sent money abroad to Islamic charities that reportedly support terrorism. How much funding are these so-called charities receiving from the U.S.? How much U.S. government funding is indirectly going to these groups? I don't know whether suspect Islamic charities are supporting radical jihadists such as Mr. al-Awlaki, but this is possibility that should be looked into.

An investigation of the drivers behind homegrown radical jihadists must be realistic and focused on the extremist ideas of radical jihadists leaders such as Mr. al-Awlaki, who recently posted a long article on the Internet stating his beliefs that the West is at war with Islam, that democracy is not Islamic, and that moderate Muslims are non-Muslims. Contrast this with the assertion by those who claim the Guantanamo Bay prison facility is a factor driving the radical Islamist ideology and that by closing this facility and trying its al Qaeda suspects in New York we will somehow tame radical jihadism. It is hard to understand the logic behind such a claim since radical jihadist ideology predates the Guantanamo facility by decades. Clearly Mr. al-Awlaki and other radical jihadists are not going to suddenly moderate their views because we closed the detention facility at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.

The serious national security implications of the Fort Hood shooting concern both a possible homegrown terrorist attack and a likely failure of U.S. intelligence agencies to cooperate, yet Congress has done nothing to investigate and the Obama administration has stonewalled requests by individual members of Congress for information.

The Obama administration seems to forget that it is a requirement, not an option, for the executive branch to keep Congress fully and currently informed. Instead of a healthy discussion with Congress on why this horrible event occurred, we have something akin to pulling teeth to get even basic information. This is wrong and it makes me wonder what Congress will find when the layers are pulled back.

The Fort Hood shooting brings to the surface serious threats to our national security. These threats require three things from the president and congressional leaders: leadership, action and speed. We cannot wait for the next homegrown jihadist to strike.

• Rep. Peter Hoekstra, Michigan Republican, is ranking member of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence.

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