Supervisor Asks Woman To Take Down American Flag

[Kyobanim]

. . . or American.

[Utah Bob]

Godammit!
That's about all I can articulate right now.

I agree with the revolution...count me in...I'll even be your ammo bearer...

TG

[swpa19]

REMEMBER: Pictures and Posters of the Messiah as well as Che Guevara are totally exceptible by the left. This is a bit off theme, but watching Obama speak with his chin turned up and him looking down at the camera, does anyone else have visions of Mussolini speaking from the balcony?

[The Reaper]

Originally Posted by swpa19

This is a bit off theme, but watching Obama speak with his chin turned up and him looking down at the camera, does anyone else have visions of Mussolini speaking from the balcony?

I believe that this thought has been articulated a few times:

http://www.professionalsoldiers.com/...40&postcount=6

TR

[HOLLiS]

I email the organization and wish them the best in relocating in another country.

[6.8SPC_DUMP]

Disheartening and disgraceful. What type of EE manual do they have that they are worried about a lawsuit??? Hope no one treats that person to a swine flu sandwich.

At the company I worked HR in I could have told them to read the EE manual and remind them they aren't getting paid to look at other EE's desks.

[greenberetTFS]

Originally Posted by Pete

They would say something along the line of you must be a racist, a bigot, a homophob or conservative.

Pete and TR,

I concur with both of you....... I fall back with what I stated a few days ago. Patriotism isn't what is was when I was a kid in the 40's. I'm glad I'm an old fart and won't be around to see what I'm afraid will happen to our country. I just pray to GOD I'm wrong....

GB TFS

[Penn]

Screw the tea parties, it's time for an all out armed revolution

With a a few key storkes and a some rodo points, I'm GTG.............

Originally Posted by Aoresteen

I wonder if someone saw a poster of Obama in a worker's cube and found that offensive, would a complaint bring it down?

Well the Vets who had a flaming hissy fit at the kiosk on Sunday outside The Wall made it come down... his poster that is.

They stated that the kiosk was for Veterans NOT politics. So the Rolling Thunder people took down the signs indicating that presidental stuff was for sale..but did not remove the stuff.. My feeling was it was more this president than the last that offended them. Of course BHO did not make an appearance at the event.. George did... was there when he showed very briefly.. at least he showed.

Originally Posted by frostfire

There was once a discussion here of mandatory military service (or at least Peace Corps) for immigrants. There were a lot of opposition esp. in trust issue, but I pretty much support that idea. If anything, hopefully it can filter those who are willing to pay the price from those who want to avoid or unaware of the cost.

I work with a lot of Africans that openly hate this country. It irritates me beyond measure. I have a uniform top that has american flags and the statue of liberty on it.. and a lot more that I made in the red white and blue theme. I used to wear that color scheme while my kid was deployed.. That top apparently offended an African who complained. I was asked to not wear it again.. so I didn't I just wore the others in that scheme, some had flags, others stars and stripes.. all were patriotic fabric.. when she complained again, I politely asked if anyone wished to replace all my uniforms as that is what they all were. I was dismissed with no comment and no reprimand. I wore them another couple of weeks and then went back to my usual tropical prints.

I think that anyone who is given a green card should have 5 yrs to become a citizen. If they don't then the card gets revoked and they get deported..
In addition, other countries should work with the US and revoke the original countries passport, and for a period of 10 yrs after that, if that person commits a crime they lose citizenship and get permanently deported.

I don't give a rat's ass about the divided land in Texas. Build a fence on the north and the south... control the border...do what they do off the coast. ICE does interdiction, and sends them right back to Haiti, or wherever they come from.

[sleepyhead4]

Originally Posted by armymom1228

I work with a lot of Africans that openly hate this country. It irritates me beyond measure. I have a uniform top that has american flags and the statue of liberty on it.. and a lot more that I made in the red white and blue theme. I used to wear that color scheme while my kid was deployed.. That top apparently offended an African who complained. I was asked to not wear it again.. so I didn't I just wore the others in that scheme, some had flags, others stars and stripes.. all were patriotic fabric.. when she complained again, I politely asked if anyone wished to replace all my uniforms as that is what they all were. I was dismissed with no comment and no reprimand. I wore them another couple of weeks and then went back to my usual tropical prints.

I think that anyone who is given a green card should have 5 yrs to become a citizen. If they don't then the card gets revoked and they get deported..
In addition, other countries should work with the US and revoke the original countries passport, and for a period of 10 yrs after that, if that person commits a crime they lose citizenship and get permanently deported.

I don't give a rat's ass about the divided land in Texas. Build a fence on the north and the south... control the border...do what they do off the coast. ICE does interdiction, and sends them right back to Haiti, or wherever they come from.

As much as I agree that people who don't appreciate this country should leave, you can't single out immigrants without doing the same to the US citizens who do the same. In my opinion, we have more ungrateful people who we call fellow citizens than we do ungrateful immigrants. So should we make all these "ungrateful" people serve?

If it's an issue of green cards and obtaining citizenship, then you need to fully understand the naturalization process before chiming in with "good" ideas. My mother took over 7 years to get her citizenship, which was not entirely her doing. Should she have gotten her citizenship at her first opportunity? Sure. Could she have done it while working and raising 2 kids all by herself...probably, but she had other priorities. So by your logic she should have been deported. It's a good thing she didn't because her two kids both grew up to serve in the US military (Army & USMC) as officers, serving past their obligation. You might be surprised by the level of patriotism you can find in the immigrant population.

I apologize if I come off a bit harsh to your comment, but to me it's personal when you single out one group without even mentioning the issues we have with our own fellow citizens.

Rant off.

[Richard]

I think there are a lot of pieces missing to this puzzle and it may not be quite as cut and dry as reported.

A 3' x 5' flag in a space shared by four supervisors in a hospital - which is generally not all that big a space - may have been a bit of an aesthetic overkill for the area.

We also don't know the relationships of the supervisors and there may have been other issues of an on-going nature - to include a pattern of overtly jingoistic patriotism from the perceived victim - which precipitated the whole thing. Also, why did another supervisor carry the message that yet another was supposedly upset over the flag? Kinda sounds like a bit of proverbial office discord pot stirring to me.

And then there's the matter of why the woman - who so presumptively figured it would be OK to put up such a large flag to begin with - didn't coordinate it with the group - most companies have rules as to what may or may not be placed on display in their facilities for obvious reasons.

Bottom line - this whole thing sounded as if it was mishandled from bottom to top - ending with the corporate HQs seemingly bowing to media pressure w/o making any sort of statement as to why they decided to do what they did.

IMO - PC also runs both ways, and reporters are always looking to stir up the feces of ill-informed public opinion to get their names in print and then toss more literary fuel onto the fires they've started to keep the flames burning.

I'd like to hear the whole story but seriously doubt if that'll ever happen now that everyone's toes, egos, and rights have been publicly trod upon.

Richard's $.02

Originally Posted by sleepyhead4

As much as I agree that people who don't appreciate this country should leave, you can't single out immigrants without doing the same to the US citizens who do the same. In my opinion, we have more ungrateful people who we call fellow citizens than we do ungrateful immigrants. So should we make all these "ungrateful" people serve?

If it's an issue of green cards and obtaining citizenship, then you need to fully understand the naturalization process before chiming in with "good" ideas. My mother took over 7 years to get her citizenship, which was not entirely her doing. Should she have gotten her citizenship at her first opportunity? Sure. Could she have done it while working and raising 2 kids all by herself...probably, but she had other priorities. So by your logic she should have been deported. It's a good thing she didn't because her two kids both grew up to serve in the US military (Army & USMC) as officers, serving past their obligation. You might be surprised by the level of patriotism you can find in the immigrant population.

I apologize if I come off a bit harsh to your comment, but to me it's personal when you single out one group without even mentioning the issues we have with our own fellow citizens.

Rant off.

I was not the person who made the comment about 'serving', Sir..

I do take responsibility for desiring that obtaining citizenship be a requirement for keeping one's green card. My timing of 5 yrs, is what I have read is the average length of time most take. If someone is actively pursuing that issue then by all means, give them as much leeway as we possibly can.. pursueing that goal is the object.

My mother in law has been in this country, since 1947. She has yet to even attempt to pursue citizenship.. and her son , my ex, was an officer as well. He flew helos for the 101 Air Cav out of Da Nang. Of course his father was Army Air Force (my dad's good friend) and an US Citizen. His family was here before the white man chose to grace these shores. He had his own distinct opinions on 'immigration'.

I am truly sorry if I offended you in anyway...it was now, nor ever my intent.

With regards to making immigrants serve.. I dunno... not everyone's jib is cut out to be military. Mine sure wasn't, but it was cut to serve those who serve. I derive a great deal of pleasure from working for and serving, and advocating for Vets.

[dr. mabuse]

Can't hardly believe it. This nonsense happens ~20 minutes from my house and in Texas no less.

For me, the big issue was some numbnuts laid down the flag on the floor and no one called them on it immediately.

There is no excuse for it.