Whitehouse.gov already calling for gun ban - Page 2

Gypsy · 01-20-2009, 20:23

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Originally Posted by Bill Harsey

Good one. The "kids" here probably don't get it.

I remember. _ill everyone else?

Plutarch · 01-20-2009, 20:33

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Originally Posted by Sten

I have written my reps and told them how I feel about guns.

We can run to the Internet and cry or we can tell the people who can do something about it that we will not allow our rights to be stolen.

Did I say not to contact your representatives?

You're probably right though, none of us should pass along any pertinent information. I mean, we have the media for that, right?

LongWire · 01-21-2009, 01:14

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Originally Posted by Gypsy

I remember. _ill everyone else?

Not that he should have had to, but President Bush informed his staff during the changeover "No Monkey Business" or something to that effect.

**Team Sergeant** · 01-21-2009, 16:39

It's looking like we are currently being fed.....

TS

"The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism, but under the name of liberalism they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program until one day America will be a socialist nation without ever knowing how it happened."

(Norman Thomas, 1936 presidential candidate on the Socialist ticket)

perdurabo · 01-21-2009, 17:58

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Originally Posted by jasonglh

The AWB is a dead issue as there are plenty out there to be had. Just today the gun shop received 50 stripped uppers and they were gone by lunch as the owner has said has happened every 2-3 days since mid October.

This is frankly, just not true. Re-enactment of the AWB is plain and simply infringement of our second amendment rights. It should not be dismissed.

The way I'm understanding your point, it's analogous to "The first amendment is a dead issue, as there's plenty of time to speak your piece before speech is banned".

Currently, my upper is back ordered 16 weeks or more. I don't really call that "plenty".

With respect,
Jake

Gypsy · 01-21-2009, 18:31

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Originally Posted by LongWire

Not that he should have had to, but President Bush informed his staff during the changeover "No Monkey Business" or something to that effect.

It seemed to me from an outsider's perspective to be one of the more professional/friendly changeovers. I expected nothing less, to be honest.

**Box** · 01-21-2009, 19:06

I wonder how long it will be before the gub-mint finally gets the NRA added to the list of extremist organizations.......

jasonglh · 01-22-2009, 03:02

I just don't see Obama signing another AWB he wants a second term but he might sign one in the second if he doesn't want to help the next candidate.

Paslode · 01-22-2009, 04:52

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Originally Posted by jasonglh

I just don't see Obama signing another AWB he wants a second term but he might sign one in the second if he doesn't want to help the next candidate.

$20 says he gets it done within 12 months....probably sooner.

Defender968 · 01-22-2009, 08:40

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Originally Posted by jasonglh

I just don't see Obama signing another AWB he wants a second term but he might sign one in the second if he doesn't want to help the next candidate.

Jason have you seen the electoral map from the election, I'm sure you have but take another look, http://www.npr.org/news/specials/ele...nt?view=race08 those blue states, with the exception of NC they're not interested in your right to bear arms, he got elected without them. Don't be fooled, he is no friend to the 2nd amendment. Look into his history, he pushed a bill in Illinois to make a home owner whose house was broken into and whose gun was stolen a felon. Just let that soak in for a second.

So some scumbag breaks into your house and takes your property in your castle, and you didn't have your gun locked up, so now you get convicted of a felony and your right to own a gun is gone, along with your ability to get a good job, because some thieving POS broke into YOUR house, you the VICTIM get punished, that’s how anti gun he is.

No matter how many commercials or statements he made during the election, he is anti gun period.

**The Reaper** · 01-22-2009, 08:59

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Originally Posted by Paslode

$20 says he gets it done within 12 months....probably sooner.

I say in the first 100 days.

The big miscalculation is that the margins in some states were significant enough that a 90% flip by angry gun owners could turn the color of the state. That could reverse the coattails that carried a lot of the Dims in close races.

NC, FL, PA, and OH have a LOT of gun owners and hunters, some of who voted for change, and hopefully, they will remember come election time.

TR

jasonglh · 01-22-2009, 14:35

Another AWB may be the only way we get rid of him before 2016 as we still don't seem to have a viable candidate at the moment.

I live in a red state in a city where a paraplegic was indicted for excessive force for shooting a burglar twice with a .22 rifle. If I have a burglar I will be screwed because the .22 would be the last weapon of choice in my arsenal.

APLP · 01-23-2009, 21:33

Don't worry about policy statements, look at what is knocking at the doorstep right now.

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill...d?bill=h111-45

6.8SPC_DUMP · 01-23-2009, 23:32

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They support closing the gun show loophole and making guns in this country childproof. They also support making the expired federal Assault Weapons Ban permanent.

Definitely a step in the total gun ban direction. But I'm not so sure Obama will be the one to try to execute a total gun ban. I'm sure he will limit gun/ammo options and add bureaucracy. I DO think he is serious about trying to "bring people together" and knows he will lose all credibility with sceptics if he tries to end the 2nd amendment. It's pretty much the best case scenario with a cabinet staff of Hilldog who would probably want to join the UN global gun ban and Emanuel who was a key writer in the '94 AWB.

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"I ask, sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."

-Patrick Henry

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"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms....."

Thomas Jefferson

( I haven't independently verified the accuracy of these quotes )

Defender968 · 01-24-2009, 09:34

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Originally Posted by APLP

Don't worry about policy statements, look at what is knocking at the doorstep right now.

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill...d?bill=h111-45

Yet another lightly veiled attack on the 2nd amendment. This crap does nothing to fix the issues. Criminals do not care what laws you put in place, they don't register their stolen weapons, and they sure as hell aren't going to register to own a weapon as it's yet another felony for a felon to own a weapon, so this crap is just about punishing/making the life of the law abiding gun owner difficult, but more importantly as others have said registration is the first step to taking our guns, first they have to know who has them.