07-30-2008, 16:21
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Learn to recognize, accept, and appreciate legitimate criticism / spot correction and differentiate it from "being picked on"!
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07-30-2008, 17:34
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jatx
Mix a drink for a lady
Thoughts? Additions? 
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Great comments from everyone, several I thought of have already been mentioned. I'd add to the above, he should learn how to cook for a lady, to include presentation of the meal. At the least 1-2 specialty dishes, more if he enjoys it. Chicks love men who can and will cook for them.
Oh yes, and tell the whole truth and nothing but the truth. Always.
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07-30-2008, 19:36
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gypsy
Oh yes, and tell the whole truth and nothing but the truth. Always.
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"Do these pants make my butt look big?"
"Do I look older to you?"
"Do I look like I did when I married you?"
ITS A TRAP! LIE YOUR EVER LOVIN' ASS OFF!!
TR
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07-30-2008, 20:06
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Be comfortable in social situations no matter the people involved.
Learn how to learn. First corollary - learn how to read directions. Second corollary - learn how to teach. Third corollary - learn to ask directions (gps units and maps/compasses don't count)
Iron - know how to wield an iron. Also know how to read a label so the proper washing method is used. (goes over well with the ladies and their delicates)
Do dishes - same as above, know what's ok to put in the dishwasher and what you should wash by hand. (if a lady cooks for you, you'd BETTER do them dishes or you may NEVER get another meal from her)
Learn how to NOT drink when everyone else does.
Know that it's ok in certain situations to say "I don't know." And the difference between those times and the times when you need to keep quiet, and observe/copy.
Become that kid the neighbors can rely on to housesit and know their critters and plants will still be alive/thriving when they get home.
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Last edited by LibraryLady; 07-30-2008 at 20:19.
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07-30-2008, 20:51
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Area Commander
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Reaper
"Do these pants make my butt look big?"
"Do I look older to you?"
"Do I look like I did when I married you?"
ITS A TRAP! LIE YOUR EVER LOVIN' ASS OFF!!
TR
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Ahhhhh damnit ya caught on, did you? LOL!
I'm odd that way...I never ask a question unless I am prepared for the real answer.
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07-31-2008, 00:57
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Identify a shit test
Identify a shit test, TR provided some good examples....
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Originally Posted by The Reaper
"Do these pants make my butt look big?"
"Do I look older to you?"
"Do I look like I did when I married you?"
ITS A TRAP! LIE YOUR EVER LOVIN' ASS OFF!!
TR
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A shit test is a question that is typically asked by a woman (or her parents, or her friends), where one's response, whether truthful, or fabricated, will result in a negative reaction from the female.
Example:
Jenny: Forest, how many girls have you slept with?
(Forest has the following options)
1: Tell the truth
Forest: 212....
Jenny: WTF!!!!
Jenny gets angry at for Forest telling the truth, the relationship continues, and it takes six months of Forest showering twice a day for him to get to "bed" her again.
2: Lie
Forest: Uh... 3
Jenny: You are such a liar, I thought I could trust you!!! WTF!!! 
Jenny assumes he is a liar, gets angry at for Forest telling a lie, the relationship continues, and it takes six months of Forest showering twice a day for him to get to "bed" her again.
Either way the boy is in trouble unless....
3: Deals with the shit test
Forest: At one time, or all together (or)
Forest: Zero, I'm still a virgin, I cross my fingers before we did it
Jenny: Forest you are too funny....
At this point Forest distracts Jenny with a massage, or something else playful. Jenny is happy, because Forest didn't lie, or tell the truth.
Hope everyone is tracking, because this an essential battle drill for any male hopeing to survive it out there in the wild
Last edited by uscav_scout; 07-31-2008 at 11:41.
Reason: grammatical error
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07-31-2008, 19:53
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Great advices. Man, need to put some of those on my things-to-learn list.
I got two for him:
1. Make sure he understands and lives by "Say what you mean and do what you say." I still believe this principle wins people's respect, even if they hate you.
2. Forge his integrity by giving him an opportunity to do the right thing when nobody look or care, because while an old dog can still learn new tricks, character, especially under high stress is blah blah blah...preaching to the choir here
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Originally Posted by uscav_scout
A shit test is a question that is typically asked by a woman (or her parents, or her friends), where one's response, whether truthful, or fabricated, will result in a negative reaction from the female.
Either way the boy is in trouble unless....
3: Deals with the shit test
Forest: At one time, or all together (or)
Forest: Zero, I'm still a virgin, I cross my fingers before we did it
Jenny: Forest you are too funny....
At this point Forest distracts Jenny with a massage, or something else playful. Jenny is happy, because Forest didn't lie, or tell the truth.
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you sir, is a philosopher! I don't think I can pull the stunt though, I always say what I mean and do what I say
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08-02-2008, 19:04
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Many of my most important ones were already mentioned, but I'll add these:
regarding women:
open doors and walk on the street side of her. Learn the truth of "all that glitters is not gold".
regarding men:
be there every time your friends need you without fail.
regarding all:
eye contact, firm handshakes, and think twice but say nothing.
personal note: on my dad's death bed, he told me two things: accentuate the positive and to thine own self be true.
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08-02-2008, 21:03
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jw74
regarding women:
open doors and walk on the street side of her.
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Wow...my dad was only one of two men in my life who've walked on the street side of me. Very nice.
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08-02-2008, 21:12
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LibraryLady
Iron - know how to wield an iron. Also know how to read a label so the proper washing method is used. (goes over well with the ladies and their delicates)
Become that kid the neighbors can rely on to housesit and know their critters and plants will still be alive/thriving when they get home.
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The fact that my husband can iron, and irons better than I do makes me overlook other things he isn't perfect about.
On the neighbor kid issue - I've currently got first hand experience with this one. I've got this kid next door and I'll tell you that when you're raising one of these kids that child becomes the child everyone WANTS to teach stuff to and it's that kid who generally gets the opportunity to learn everything else on the list because he's learning at the knees of everyone else on the street and soaking it all in. These kids are easily identified at a fairly early age and they are fun to have around.
The only thing I can think of off the top of my head:
- Learn to sharpen knives.
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08-03-2008, 00:08
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I. Basic welding
II. Olympic lifts
III. Pole vault
IV. Sharpen tools
V. Farriery
VI. Basic blacksmithing
VII. Sew
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08-28-2009, 09:30
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Perhaps this can help, a group of gents looking to bring back the way of the man: http://artofmanliness.com/
Some great ideas of things to teach your kids in the articles and more
For example:
Shave properly
apologize properly
make a decision
write a letter
dress for the situation
deal with stress and grief
leave a tip
write a resume
give a good first impression
walk into a room
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08-28-2009, 14:37
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Id be happy if my kid would stop riding the dog like a horse. The dog is getting tired and the horse is feeling lonely....
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08-28-2009, 19:17
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In addition to the afore mentioned qualities, I will add the ability to be able to look yourself in the mirror every morning...
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08-28-2009, 20:06
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One of my sons joined the Marines at an older than average age and was made platoon guide of his boot platoon. One of the first letters I received from him complained of the immaturity of the 17-18-19 year olds around him. He wrote, "If they would do what they are told, when told and how told, life would be easier around here."
That was a gestalt moment!
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