AF Secretary and Chief of Staff Forced to Resign This Morning

[afchic]

Originally Posted by Scimitar

Nice one!

Well this says it all.

New Airforce Advert.

"It takes the US Airforce to protect America in a changing world"
"The US Air Force - above all"

Kinda exclusive don't you think.

Scimitar

No more so than "Army of One"

Each Service has its own cultures, which need to be respected. With that being said, the AF needs to take a serious look in the mirror. I am proud to be an airman, but I am not proud of our current leadership. Yes there are a few Generals that are outstanding, but many of them have becomed more concerned about their next star than anything else.

I was raised in an enlisted household and my dad always taught me that what your subordinates think of you is much more important than what your superiors think of you. You take care of your troops and they are going to take care of you. The Air Force has lost this mindset and now we are a bunch of bumbling "yes men" because we are afraid our superiors won't like what we have to say. That is why we are in the mess we are currently.

I think Gen Schwartz is the man to clean house. He is not a yes man by any stretch of the imagination. He does not appreciate people telling him what they think he wants to hear, he appreciates being told the truth, even if the truth is ugly.

[SF_BHT]

Originally Posted by afchic

No more so than "Army of One"

Each Service has its own cultures, which need to be respected. With that being said, the AF needs to take a serious look in the mirror. I am proud to be an airman, but I am not proud of our current leadership. Yes there are a few Generals that are outstanding, but many of them have becomed more concerned about their next star than anything else.

I was raised in an enlisted household and my dad always taught me that what your subordinates think of you is much more important than what your superiors think of you. You take care of your troops and they are going to take care of you. The Air Force has lost this mindset and now we are a bunch of bumbling "yes men" because we are afraid our superiors won't like what we have to say. That is why we are in the mess we are currently.

I think Gen Schwartz is the man to clean house. He is not a yes man by any stretch of the imagination. He does not appreciate people telling him what they think he wants to hear, he appreciates being told the truth, even if the truth is ugly.

Is Airman a sexist term.. Should you not be called Airchic or Airdale, or something else non gender related. But AirMAN is a little one sided male sounding. Soldier is non gender, Sailor is non gender and do not forget the Marines they had to make it simple for them, they are just Marines.... Just had to rant and make fun, back in my hole until the next TGT pops up......

[AngelsSix]

Just remember that the Airborne troops ride in Air Force aircraft. The Security Forces in the Air Force have taken on the role of the soldiers whose job it was to man the perimeter of the base so they can go out and get the crap kicked out of them. The folks in the AF aren't dumb, they know who's on the winning end of the deal.

In all seriousness, I left the cop side of the house and went into combat arms because the Air Force wanted to make cops infantrymen above all else. The problem with that is that the AF is not traditionally a ground combat force. Because of this the SF (security forces) are not taken seriously anymore, basically get crapped on and hate their jobs. There are more factors involved here (people failing out of other schools being dumped into SF) etc., that contribute. But when Big Air Force started treating SF like shit, they got what they got. The reason the SF guys failed the NSI is clear, they are tired of the BS.

[afchic]

Originally Posted by SF_BHT

Is Airman a sexist term.. Should you not be called Airchic or Airdale, or something else non gender related. But AirMAN is a little one sided male sounding. Soldier is non gender, Sailor is non gender and do not forget the Marines they had to make it simple for them, they are just Marines.... Just had to rant and make fun, back in my hole until the next TGT pops up......

I just blew captain and coke all over my computer screen, through my nose!! Thanks for the laugh!!!

[SF_BHT]

Originally Posted by afchic

I just blew captain and coke all over my computer screen, through my nose!! Thanks for the laugh!!!

Your welcome.....

[Team Sergeant]

Infil complete, one down, three more services to go......

Team Sergeant



Donley officially sworn in as Secretary of the Air Force

by Staff Sgt. J.G. Buzanowski
Secretary of the Air Force Public Affairs

10/17/2008 - WASHINGTON (AFNS) -- Secretary of Defense Robert M. Gates officially swore in Michael B. Donley as the Secretary of the Air Force Oct. 17 at the Air Force Memorial.

In his speech, Secretary Donley said he's honored to serve as the senior civilian leader of the Air Force and looks forward to the challenges of the position.

"To the men and women of the Air Force, to its many stakeholders, and to all who know and love this tremendous institution, I commit to you my full energies during my term of office as the 22nd Secretary of the United States Air Force," Secretary Donley said. "It is my honor and privilege to accept this appointment as Secretary of the Air Force. I am grateful to once again be serving with the finest Air Force in the world."

In the coming days, the Air Force will face several issues, but is prepared to tackle any obstacle, he said.

"As the Air Force looks forward, the possibilities are unlimited," Secretary Donley said. "We are making great strides in strengthening our nuclear enterprise and restoring acquisition excellence, and there is absolutely no question that America's Airmen are 'all in' for today's joint and coalition fight."

Air Force Chief of Staff Gen. Norton A. Schwartz was the presiding official for the ceremony.

"Today we celebrate Secretary Donley's virtuous character, strong leadership, and personal example of our Air Force core values," General Schwartz said. "It is a privilege to have Secretary Donley lead our Air Force as we go through these important times."

His leadership has reinforced the standards of performance, ethics and accountability necessary for us to continue our heritage of excellence, General Schwartz added.

Secretary Donley has more than 30 years of experience in the national security community, including service in the Senate, White House and the Pentagon. In his most recent position, he was responsible for Washington Headquarters Services, a 1,300-employee entity that oversees management of the Pentagon and Department of Defense services within the National Capital Region, and the Pentagon Force Protection Agency.

Secretary Donley, who was acting Secretary of the Air Force for seven months in 1993 and served as the service's top financial officer from 1989 to 1993, also served on the National Security Council and was a professional staff member on the Senate Armed Services Committee in the early 1980s.

He served in the Army's 18th Airborne Corps and 5th Special Forces Group (Airborne) from 1972 to 1975. He holds bachelor's and master's degrees in international relations from the University of Southern California.

http://www.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123120155

[Richard]

Michael B. Donley's Defense Link Bio

http://www.defenselink.mil/bios/biog...biographyid=43

USAF Bio

http://www.af.mil/bios/bio.asp?bioID=11336

Was he an MI guy? Sounds like it.

Also put an experienced 'program' guy as Vice CofS to ensure the safety/security of our nuclear arsenal after the accountability fiascos of the last couple of years.

http://www.airforcetimes.com/news/20...ations_100208/

Richard

Times are a'changin for the boy's and girls in blue. Effective 1 Nov 2008 Gucci accessories (shoes, boots, handbags, and belts) will no longer be authorized for wear with USAF uniforms.

[Richard]

Originally Posted by WCH

Times are a'changin for the boy's and girls in blue. Effective 1 Nov 2008 Gucci accessories (shoes, boots, handbags, and belts) will no longer be authorized for wear with USAF uniforms.

That'll be the day! What else are they going to do with all that TAD money?

Richard's $.02

[AngelsSix]

That'll be the day! What else are they going to do with all that TAD money?
Richard's $.02

TDY money and per diem long since have dried up in the AF unless you are going to a school. We don't make any more money deploying than the Army does.

[Red Flag 1]

Originally Posted by WCH

Times are a'changin for the boy's and girls in blue. Effective 1 Nov 2008 Gucci accessories (shoes, boots, handbags, and belts) will no longer be authorized for wear with USAF uniforms.

As a USAF officer from 1973 thru 1990, I paid for all my uniforms. My uniform stipend signing on covered my mess dress, nothing more! I got a one time reimbursment of about $300.00 at the 12 year mark. Our uniforms changed frequently and I paid for every uniform change out of pocket.

The belts, shoes, boots I wore, I bought from clothing sales; as did every officer I served with. If designer duds were worn, it was well above my pay grade, and I had a bonus.


With all due respect, you seem to infer something that is probably not so. At several bases I was stationed at, Plattsburgh AFB to name one, our enlisted below E-4 were on food stamps. Hard to buy designer duds if you are close to starving.


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[AF Doc]

I don't give a hoot about Gucci gear and such, but if the new Sec AF can cut out a couple meetings and instill a "Git 'er done" attitude, I'll be a happy man. If the AF has a flaw--and I'm not sayin' it does--it loves it's meetings way too much.

On second thought, You can't beat that nice Cardigan sweater, and I do have a really nice pair of low quarters....

[Red Flag 1]

Originally Posted by AF Doc

I don't give a hoot about Gucci gear and such, but if the new Sec AF can cut out a couple meetings and instill a "Git 'er done" attitude, I'll be a happy man. If the AF has a flaw--and I'm not sayin' it does--it loves it's meetings way too much.

On second thought, You can't beat that nice Cardigan sweater, and I do have a really nice pair of low quarters....

Yup!

Last AF Times mentioned an increase in manpower as well.

My low quarters were Bates, Sweater V-neck.


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Effective 27 OCT 2008 USAF personnel (current and past) will be required to attend humor recognition classes.

Gucci accessories will not be permitted in the classrooms.

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Originally Posted by WCH

Effective 27 OCT 2008 USAF personnel (current and past) will be required to attend humor recognition classes.

Gucci accessories will not be permitted in the classrooms.

Got it !

Is sensitivity traning included? USAF was big on that.

How about Polo stuff?


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