04-12-2008, 16:15
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Uuummmm. Our nuclear weapons have been off "hair trigger alert" since 1991 (under President Bush 41). Barry is about 17 years late on that one.
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04-12-2008, 16:24
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Originally Posted by kgoerz
My time is very limited these days. So I come here to see what my buds are saying. If I wanted to hear your left wing liberal crap on my limited INTERNET time I would surf a different Forum. We all know what he is. Your positive opinion of him is a wast of space around here.
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My only point here is you don't have to demonize a guy to vehemently oppose him and the sooner both sides of the political spectrum learns this the better for the Republic as a whole. A guy can be a patronizing, naive, jerk without being a traitor.
But, suit yourself. I knew there was a reason I stayed out of the domestic politics threads.
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04-12-2008, 16:27
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Originally Posted by Ambush Master
As pointed out by our own resident ABM, his first name was really Barry!!!
Try Googling Barry Obama, you'll be surprised!!!
And the TRUE name for his ilk, are DICKWEEDS!!!
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Agreed!
Am only wondering where the other parties in this thread went?
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04-12-2008, 16:40
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Mr Carter
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Carter did what Obama is saying, he just did a better job of shielding his plans. We are still payng for Jimmy! Clinton did not trust Carter...seems he dosen't think much of Obama either. The only two times I could agree with Clinton.
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04-12-2008, 16:55
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Originally Posted by x-factor
I knew there was a reason I stayed out of the domestic politics threads.
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If I may respectfully ask, because you knew that your position/candidate was weak? Or that you are attempting to stir-the-pot?
Am I close?
O. Hussein is a flea market salesman...and why? His beliefs, morals, and standards are in opposition to real American Values, yet he tries to sell them like a home-shopping network fool.
Oh and X, please google the United States Flag Code. Like me, you may learn something.
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04-12-2008, 17:09
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Did you hear me say he was my candidate? I'm not voting for the guy. I said I believe he's generally well-intentioned (as much as any politician anyway). However, on the issues, I think he's completely out of his depth on foreign policy and fundamentally wrong on Iraq and thats a deal-breaker for me.
For the record, I'm a conservative Florida democrat and quite happy to vote for McCain. (I'd have been even happier to vote for him in 2000, but thats neither here nor there.)
Someone posted a video clip. I watched it. I responded to it with my opinion as people generally do on discussion forums. Thats all.
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04-12-2008, 17:17
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Originally Posted by x-factor
Did you hear me say he was my candidate? I'm not voting for the guy. I said I believe he's generally well-intentioned (as much as any politician anyway). However, on the issues, I think he's completely out of his depth on foreign policy and fundamentally wrong on Iraq and thats a deal-breaker for me.
For the record, I'm a conservative Florida democrat and quite happy to vote for McCain. (I'd have been even happier to vote for him in 2000, but thats neither here nor there.)
Someone posted a video clip. I watched it. I responded to it with my opinion as people generally do on discussion forums. Thats all.
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Then WHY did you post what you did in support of Obama? May I ask?
Edit to add: It's 'cause he's good looking...right?
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04-12-2008, 17:19
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Originally Posted by Red Flag 1
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We are still payng for Jimmy!
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Maybe he'll make it up to America when he talks to Hamas.
What an clown.
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04-12-2008, 17:25
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Originally Posted by x-factor
I believe he's generally well-intentioned.
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I'M well intentioned. I want every American to have a million dollars, three brand new cars, HD TVs for every room in the mansion, and steak for dinner every day.
Whatever my "well intentions", it ain't gonna happen. To promise that on the campaign trail is NOT well intentioned, and is in fact a mean thing to do to the voters that fell for his crap.
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04-12-2008, 17:39
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RR - Thats just it. I think he believes his own "power of hope" hype. I think he believes a nuclear free world is possible and all that. I don't think this makes him a bad guy. I do think it means he's not realistic enough to be President.
Holly - Go back and read my post again and tell me what exactly was in support of Obama's campaign. I said I was "trying to give him the benefit of the doubt" but his tone didn't make that easy.
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04-12-2008, 17:52
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Originally Posted by x-factor
RR - Thats just it. I think he believes his own "power of hope" hype. I think he believes a nuclear free world is possible and all that. I don't think this makes him a bad guy. I do think it means he's not realistic enough to be President.
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The guy has read too many of his own press clippings.
At some point in time (hopefully before November), his image will start to unravel.
When the tumble starts, he will attack critics and go into full-blown victim mode.
We may even be fortunate enough to see a tirade similar to the type bill klinton has thrown.
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04-12-2008, 18:02
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Holly -I said I was "trying to give him the benefit of the doubt" but his tone didn't make that easy.
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X,
Nothing in life is easy. Why take the easy way out?
And yes, I can comprehend Your argument...He is good-looking after all, right...but in the end, shouldn't it be more than that?
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04-12-2008, 18:04
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Keep the discussion civil! All of us are idealists (or we wouldn't have made/supported the sacrifices we've all had to endure), some of us are just a bit more idealistic than others. That's not an excuse for typical internet behavior.
(X-factor - FWIW I think you're being overly generous too. There's more than enough smoke for me to assume (that means "take steps to protect my interests") that there's also a fire. P)
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04-12-2008, 18:57
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Originally Posted by Peregrino
Keep the discussion civil! All of us are idealists (or we wouldn't have made/supported the sacrifices we've all had to endure), some of us are just a bit more idealistic than others. That's not an excuse for typical internet behavior.
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Peregrino,
My apologies if I have posted in a non-civil way. Was not my intent Sir.
Back to the 52 second topic...
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04-13-2008, 03:25
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the exact word does make a difference
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The comfort of knowing your two daughters will not be burdened by children?
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I believe he used the word "punished". I think we can all extrapolate his position on killing for convenience. Whatever else he is, he is just like Hillary, he is focused on his 25m target, POTUS. He will blame anyone else, throw anyone under the bus, say anything to any group, and promise everything to everyone, albeit with as little detail as possible, to achieve his goal. He is pretty good at this. He won't be the first and he won't be the last.
But, JUST like the dog who chases the car, the big question is what will he do when he catches it?
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