Teacher ‘petrified’ after being attacked by student

[Gypsy]

Originally Posted by JustinW20

Amen to that. 'Course I went to an all-boys, Catholic high school. Even in the early '90s, wall-to-wall counseling was not an uncommon occurrence.

Catholic school here...in the 60's/70s. You can only begin to imagine. Boys got their asses whupped and girls...eieeee we got the edge of the rulers...or called to the nunnery to be possibly suspended. Not that I know anything about all that.

I still hate nun outfits.

[Dad]

Just as many goods kids as ever. The bad ones are just worse. That's because some parents are total wastes

[Radar Rider]

Originally Posted by Dad

Just as many goods kids as ever. The bad ones are just worse. That's because some parents are total wastes

Really? Great Grandpa beat the shit out of Grandpa. Grandpa beat the shit out of Dad. Dad started out following the same pattern, but broke the pattern with his 8 kids; he'd sit us down and talk and talk and talk..... I suspect that if you research the 1800s and early 1900s, you'll find that kid beating was pretty much the standard.

Okay, we are evolving as a society. Since we can't beat the kids, we have to find a better way in which to raise our children.

The days of beating bad kids, whether we are nostalgic or not, are gone. I don't like punks running around, but we have to be real.

[Sdiver]

Originally Posted by Gypsy

Catholic school here...in the 60's/70s. You can only begin to imagine. Boys got their asses whupped and girls...eieeee we got the edge of the rulers...or called to the nunnery to be possibly suspended. Not that I know anything about all that.

I still hate nun outfits.

You just need to, kick the Habit.



Sorry, I couldn't resist.

[sg1987]

Originally Posted by Radar Rider

. Dad and Mom thankfully broke the abuse cycle with their 8 kids, but I saw Dad's anger and Mom's psychological damage.

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Question: Did a religious faith conversion play a role in the breaking of this cycle? Just curious because it did in our family.

[Sdiver]

Originally Posted by Radar Rider

Really? Great Grandpa beat the shit out of Grandpa. Grandpa beat the shit out of Dad. Dad started out following the same pattern, but broke the pattern with his 8 kids; he'd sit us down and talk and talk and talk..... I suspect that if you research the 1800s and early 1900s, you'll find that kid beating was pretty much the standard.

But back then was different. Kids had things to do.

Fetch water.
Chop wood.
Feed the animals.
Help in Planting.
Help in Harvesting.
Help Pa in the Barn.
Help old man Johnson down the way.
Check in in the widow Daniels and make sure she had plenty of wood, water, food, ect.

Granted, this is out in the rural farm areas, but even in the "Big City", kids had plenty of chores to do around the house.

Mostly they were raised as "God Fearin' Folks". Kids and families in general are missing that.

Now-a-days, kids are left with their X-boxs, play stations, I-pods, Cell phones, 200 plus channels on their TVs, ect. There is really NO family any more. No more, sit down and eat the table with everyone and discuss the days "adventures". No more, playing of board games (as simple as it sounds). No more, cohesive "Family Bonding". Now, family bonding is maybe, a trip to Disneyland/world, where the kids run off on their own while mom and dad, (if they do come) go off and do something else.

Originally Posted by R.R.

Okay, we are evolving as a society. Since we can't beat the kids, we have to find a better way in which to raise our children.

The days of beating bad kids, whether we are nostalgic or not, are gone. I don't like punks running around, but we have to be real.

Beatings are one thing. Disciplining them is another.

Whether you call it "nostalgic" or not, that old saying applies today more so then "yesteryear"......"Spare the Rod, Spoil the Child."

[Radar Rider]

I guess I'm an anachronism. The wife and the boy and I sit down every night for dinner.

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[Sdiver]

Originally Posted by Radar Rider

I guess I'm an anachronism. The wife and the boy and I sit down every night for dinner.

As such, you have a GREAT kid.

Originally Posted by Rader Rider

My son is a good kid. A GREAT kid, in fact. He's an honor student and has a Black Belt in Tae Kwon Do. He doesn't do stupid shit, so he doesn't make the news. I'm writing about him now.

How many of today's kids, don't have or get that opportunity ??

[x-factor]

I'm behind RR 100% here.

[Sdiver]

Originally Posted by dinatius

Because the good kids never make the news, and when they do nobody cares.

I disagree.

We see good kids on the news ALL the time, and PLENTY of people care.

How about the kid who saved up all his change so he could help the lady next door?

How about the kid who had the foresight to call 911 when his mommy couldn't get up off the floor?

How about the kid(s) who held a bake sale to help raise money for their friend that has Cancer.

We see it all the time. Everyday. People care.

Stories like that which Guy posted should be a WAKE UP call to us, as a society. We need to get back that family. That's what is really missing today.

$0.02

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[Sdiver]

Originally Posted by dinatius

You have a point, I guess I should ease up on the absolutes, but it seems like the large majority of news is focused on the "bad kids". Maybe I say that because I'M never on the news.

Then do something GOOD.

Get involved with something in your community, that you can take to heart.

Stop by a VFW and ask if there's anything you can do for them. Offer to paint up their fence, cut their grass, clean up.

Go to your local VA and VOLUNTEER there. They're always looking for help.

Go to a Nursing Home and talk to the people there. They would love to have someone to talk to. Just to listen to their stories....and believe you me, they have some GREAT stories.

Tell you friends/classmates to join in. You know the old saying....you tell 2 friends, and then they tell 2 friends, and so on and so on....

There's plenty of things to do, you just have to apply yourself.

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[Surgicalcric]

Originally Posted by Radar Rider

Really? Great Grandpa beat the shit out of Grandpa. Grandpa beat the shit out of Dad. Dad started out following the same pattern, but broke the pattern with his 8 kids; he'd sit us down and talk and talk and talk..... I suspect that if you research the 1800s and early 1900s, you'll find that kid beating was pretty much the standard.

Okay, we are evolving as a society. Since we can't beat the kids, we have to find a better way in which to raise our children.

The days of beating bad kids, whether we are nostalgic or not, are gone. I don't like punks running around, but we have to be real.

Yes really, or atleast sometimes... Many parents arent taking their responsibility for raising their kids seriously or at all. They are letting society deem how they are raised and to me that is ass wrong as two men raising a child, or two women for that matter.

Personally I think some kids need their asses handed to them. There are those, obviously like yours, who dont need that to get through to them and a stern talking to about their actions will suffice. At the same time there are others who need to be spanked, whipped, and/or beaten (only figuratively) before they figure out what the hell they are doing wrong and that there is serious repercussions to their actions; I was one of those.

When I was younger, preteen years, I got my ass handed to me often. I thank my father daily (God rest his soul) for being stern and strict with me, for without him beating my ass I may have ended up on the wrong side of the fence later in life when it would have been much more difficult to correct the path I was headed on. Had my father tried time-outs, quiet time, or sent me off to "think about" what I had done I would be in a world of hurt just as many of the kids are today. I remember him sitting me down and talking to me about what I had done, why it was wrong, and that there is consequences for wrong doing. I never remember him hitting me out of anger or as a reflex (except for once when he punched me in the mouth for saying GD; never said that word again), but I can honestly tell you that it always hurt...and hurt really bad. After he was finished he told me he loved me and he hugged me.

I am regretful that your parents endured abusive parents. No child should ever have to endure such, however I believe a parent leaving a child to their own devices is doing them just as great a disservice. I don't remember having the problems in high school that many of todays youth are having and it wasn't that long ago. Some of that I attribute to my parents and the choices they made in rearing me and not letting me make decisions I wasn't responsible enough to make. Whereas many of todays kids are left to themselves because parents have (you name it) to do. The remainder I attribute to the degradation of society as a whole in what we allow kids to witness: TV, radio, movies...

I now have a beautiful 6y/o little girl but she is, without a doubt, her father's daughter. I intend on raising her as I see fit and if that includes her getting her ass spanked when she has tested the limits then that will be that. I refuse to allow society to tell me whats good for my family. The responsibility for my family and my daughter rests firmly on my shoulders. She will be raised to respect her elders, act as a young lady, defend herself, study, and believe her word is her bond. If I can instill those few things in her then I will have done my job as a parent, more or less...

As for the couples staying together I think you will find we as a society dont take commitment as seriously as our parents and their parents, and etc... Yes there are those who stayed together for the kids but I believe you will find a greater number stayed together because they made a commitment to another person, "til death do us part." Whereas today it seems to be, "until something better comes along" or "until you piss me off."

Thats all for now...

Crip