Presidential Primaries - Page 2

GratefulCitizen · 01-02-2008, 21:01

Here's a demonstration of the mild antipathy between Fred and the media:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrD6Dedwjz0

Fred's dislike of the process is evidence of his sanity.

**Ambush Master** · 01-02-2008, 21:22

At the increasing rate that Huckabee, Romney and Giuliani are hammering each other, Mr T could rise to the top in short order!!! He has not received nearly the amount of "Bad Press" for weeks and the others are taking it on like Staples to a Magnet!!!

**The Reaper** · 01-02-2008, 21:27

Unfortunately, the screwed up system that we have means that if Iowans do not like Fred, the rest of us may not get a chance to vote for him in the primaries.

This is a ridiculous system.

TR

**Roguish Lawyer** · 01-02-2008, 21:29

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Originally Posted by The Reaper

Unfortuantely, the screwed up system that we have means that if Iowans do not like Fred, the rest of us may not get a chance to vote for him in the primaries.

This is a ridiculous system.

TR

I think you are overstating things a bit, but I do agree that the early primary states get more say than they deserve.

longrange1947 · 01-02-2008, 21:31

Only the media feels that you must win Iowa and NH to get a nomination. I hate to admit it but look at where Clinton was after IA and NH. That should put some of that to rest.

Clinton got 3% in IA and came in second in NH. The media played him up big and that gave him the boast that was needed. Not the IA caucus nor the NH Primary decided it, only the media and they are at it again.

No one if forced out, they drop out because they are marginalized by the press.

**Roguish Lawyer** · 01-02-2008, 21:41

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Originally Posted by longrange1947

Only the media feels that you must win Iowa and NH to get a nomination. I hate to admit it but look at where Clinton was after IA and NH. That should put some of that to rest.

Clinton got 3% in IA and came in second in NH. The media played him up big and that gave him the boast that was needed. Not the IA caucus nor the NH Primary decided it, only the media and they are at it again.

No one if forced out, they drop out because they are marginalized by the press.

Finishing second in NH is actually a big deal, I think. With lots of guys still in the race, it's like an Olympic medal.

I think you're right about no one being forced out, but it's not just the press -- it's also the perceptions of the volunteers, endorsers and campaign contributors. Most people want to support someone who has a chance to win, and every time you do poorly in a primary you shed doubt on your prospects.

Sdiver · 01-02-2008, 21:56

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Originally Posted by Roguish Lawyer

Finishing second in NH is actually a big deal, I think. With lots of guys still in the race, it's like an Olympic medal.

I don't know about that R.L.

In the link I put up about Pat Paulsen earlier, he finished 2nd to Clinton, in NH in '96.

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In 1996 Paulsen placed second, behind President Bill Clinton, among the 23 candidates running in the New Hampshire Democrat Party primary election.

Do people really think he would have made a good President, or were they voting for him just to say, they were tired of the BS?

IMO, the press wants a certain Presidential candidate to win, and will push for that person, because they know, if that person DOES win, they'll get more use out of them, for stories and such.

I think the MSM is afraid of Fred T. because of the fact he IS a no-nonsense candidate, and will get stuff done, with help from both sides of the isle, and that just doesn't make good press.

GratefulCitizen · 01-02-2008, 22:40

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Originally Posted by Broadsword2004

Forgive my ignorance, but what does the word "nambyism" mean? I did a Google search and the first thing to come up were some other threads on PS.com. Some other sites had threads in which the word was used, but none specifying the meaning. I checked dictionary.com and it wasn't there either; it's like the word is exclusive to PS.com

Probably referring to the term "namby-pamby":
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/namby-pamby

-ism:
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/ism

Nambyism: the doctrine of being a namby-pamby.

Maybe TR just invented a new word.

REMFlt · 01-02-2008, 22:57

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Originally Posted by Broadsword2004

Forgive my ignorance, but what does the word "nambyism" mean? I did a Google search and the first thing to come up were some other threads on PS.com. Some other sites had threads in which the word was used, but none specifying the meaning. I checked dictionary.com and it wasn't there either; it's like the word is exclusive to PS.com

TR is obviously the expert, but after reading the posts in which it is used, one could infer that it refers to government acting as a babysitter, encouraging weakness in individuals.

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Originally Posted by GratefulCitizen

Maybe TR just invented a new word.

Too bad words of 2007 already came out, maybe for 2008?

Hijack over

Goggles Pizano · 01-03-2008, 08:50

I still believe counting out Thompson this early is a mistake. Iowa and NH will not set his fate as much as super Tuesday. After Fred I don't really have a fall back position for many reasons already stated. Rudy could surprise leaning on "America's mayor" national appeal but I doubt it. Romney may be a proven businessman and governor but everytime I look at him, or hear him speak, the first word that comes to mind is condescension. McCain shut the door with his immigration stance. He may not realize how deeply wounded his political career was by that. The base will never forget-at least this voter will not!

**Razor** · 01-03-2008, 10:34

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Originally Posted by GratefulCitizen

Here's a demonstration of the mild antipathy between Fred and the media:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrD6Dedwjz0

"I'm sorry I didn't run that by you guys for approval..."

"There's a lot more stark contrast between John Edwards and me than our schedules..."

"You may have remembered about 30 seconds ago I mentioned the fact..."

Classic! Straight talk from someone that doesn't suffer fools gladly, even fools from FOXNews.

01-03-2008, 15:55

It should be obvious to all as far as the candidate that I am praying for.

**The Reaper** · 01-03-2008, 18:34

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Originally Posted by MAB32

It should be obvious to all as far as the candidate that I am praying for.

Hillary?

TR

dmgedgoods · 01-03-2008, 19:03

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ford21b · 01-03-2008, 20:11

yeap just checked cnn and headlines read cnn projects huckabee for reps...kinda nice, considering he doesn't go for same sex marriage and doesn't support abortion...unlike guilliani...and approves the war and supports bush's efforts...He's my man