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Old 10-23-2007, 20:07   #16
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Bet he would have preferred a loaded and functioning firearm.

I know I would have.

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Absolutely, I'm merely pointing out when one level of defense was unavailable, he still had more to fall back on and he was better off for it.
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Old 10-23-2007, 20:43   #17
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Bet he would have preferred a loaded and functioning firearm.

I know I would have.

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You are so freaking practical. Don't you ever just want to look cool?
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Old 10-23-2007, 20:56   #18
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Don't you ever just want to look cool?

That's standard issue, Counselor.
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Old 10-23-2007, 20:56   #19
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You are so freaking practical. Don't you ever just want to look cool?

Why Counselor...are you inferring that TR doesn't already look cool?


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Old 10-23-2007, 20:59   #20
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That's standard issue, Counselor.
TR was in 7th Group, not 10th.
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Old 10-24-2007, 02:11   #21
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We carried the Fiskars Handy ( Model 1000 If I recall correctly ) for general chopping and woodwork. Tough as hell and did the job well.
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Old 10-24-2007, 07:38   #22
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TR was in 7th Group, not 10th.
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Old 10-24-2007, 12:33   #23
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TR was in 7th Group, not 10th.
What's your point????? I was in the 7th and the 10th....

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Old 10-25-2007, 14:56   #24
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There are those who say that the tomahawk was also an important utility tool in the hands of the native Americans. Many original residents of this nation did a lot of wood working. Even stone tools can fall trees.

It's use by native Americans went beyond fighting as the tomahawk was also an important in ceremony, presentation and medicine.
Some traditional tomahawks had pipes built in the head and hollowed handles for smoking. This was usually associated with peaceful use.
A kindred spirit.

True, either design could be used as the situation dictated. Forged or cast heads were obvious trade items, as the Indians had no means to produce them prior to Johnson's foundry in 1757.

To clarify, my previous comments were only in regards to metal implements rather than flint, obsidian and stone weapons and tools used by the Indians prior to their disuse.

The Pipe Hawks were a Dutch invention as a marketing gimmick for use as a trade item, and copied by the British (no evidence the French ever produced Pipe Hawks for trade). Although the Pipe Hawks didn't catch on as a replacement for ceremonial smoking, they did become a representative symbol of alliance much like the Friendship Medals given to Indians later.

This isn't to say no one ever smoked one.

Like I said, I do agree with your point that regardless of the design, either could be used for chopping wood or skulls...but there was a definite design difference between the axe heads and the fighting hawk heads.
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Old 10-25-2007, 15:27   #25
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Not one mention of the smatchet?

LOL
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Old 10-25-2007, 16:06   #26
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Not one mention of the smatchet?

LOL
Ouch.

fine fine, go ahead and open up old wounds for NDD, I'm sure he'll be along shortly now that you summoned him with the "S" word

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Old 10-28-2007, 11:27   #27
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I resently came across this product on the net . To me it is a too expencive for something that would have a limited use. The product is called the battlehawk from gg&g . I think it was more designed as an entry tool for doors,windows and such than an actuall combat tool. Still neet and nasty looking.

http://www.gggaz.com/index.php?id=141&parents=
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I'm sorry I didn't get on this site sooner so my comments could be more timely and therefore relevant.

I'm a team daddy with 19th SF over in the western sandbox. I carry a Hayes Hawk from ATC on my pistol belt. It has come in handy quite a few times out here. Knowing that it would probably catch on stuff, I designed a custom modular scabbard out of heavy leather covered with 1000 Denier ACU fabric. I also have an Eagle Talon but it's length makes it difficult to have strapped to your leg when trying to un-ass a UAH. Anyway, yeah the tomahawk has cool guy points although I still haven't been presented with the opportunity to split anyone's head yet. Some of the new kids on other ODAs scoff at it, but then again they snivel and cry that they can't go into battle without shorty barrels and all the latest scopes, lasers, NODs, and other tech toys .
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Old 05-20-2008, 18:39   #29
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The Harsey Tomahawk

Bill Harsey said a while back he thought about creating an "SF Issue" Tomahawk...

Anything ever come of it Mr. Harsey? Yes, the cool factor would be VERY high. For me as an old dude, the jealousy factor would be even bigger.


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Old 09-07-2009, 15:55   #30
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I know this is an old thread, but I'm looking to get a hatchet with a durable blade for utility stuff (camping). Any suggestions on good makers is appreciated.
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