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Old 09-14-2007, 16:59   #16
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so you dont use the combat pill pack no more? - this is not meant to be use in sickcall it used in TCCC.

or is just that you dont use Gatifloxin - and now use moxifloxin?
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Old 09-14-2007, 23:58   #17
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my goal is to seal a standard dose of any OTC med for now and have them to hand out to my guys. It is time consuming with my food saver and I heard of the easy way of sending them out and getting it done for me. I was told they will seal each med with the standard dose and then package them in a pill pack.

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These are no longer used in theater....haven't been for over a year now

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These are no longer used in theater...haven't been for over a year now.

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Old 09-15-2007, 03:10   #18
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is there a reason for US, has stop the combat pill pack?

is it only Iraq? or A-stan to?
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Old 09-15-2007, 10:01   #19
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As of March we were still using them in Afghanistan. When i attended SOCMSSP in May they were still teaching them. I have not seen anything come down from Group or Bn med saying that we were not to be carrying them anymore. I will check with them on Monday to see if this has changed.
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Old 09-15-2007, 10:17   #20
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As of March we were still using them in Afghanistan. When i attended SOCMSSP in May they were still teaching them. I have not seen anything come down from Group or Bn med saying that we were not to be carrying them anymore. I will check with them on Monday to see if this has changed.
I have no information on A-Stan.

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Unconventional folks may have different guidelines due to any number of reasons....not the least of which include remote placement or inability to reach advanced medical care in a timely fashion. Or just for the fact that they are special and have the best hair.

In Iraq, they have not been used (conventional forces) since at least Sep 06 when I arrived. There is little to no use for them as folks who are injured are generally at a LVL II (or better) facility in an incredibly timely manner.
Even MiTT and NPTT team medics are restricted from all medications that are not OTC by the MND-I SGN's Office and are mandated to utilize ADTMC now for their protocols.

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Old 09-15-2007, 10:33   #21
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sounds reasonably for iraq - also think the COTCCC see it more for a SHTF option.
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