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Old 01-24-2007, 10:55   #16
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Jim Webb irked me. Don't "pimp" your child's service for political gain--that really burns my...
During the Senate campaign, his wife said he wouldn't use his son for political gain. That statement didn't jive with the widely-circulated picture of him holding up his son's combat boots during one of his rallies. He also let it be known that he carried those boots around everywhere to remind himself of the stakes in the war. I respect and admire his military service, and think he's one of the great American novelists. But as a politician, especially in this latest edition, I find him objectionable. The rapidly shifting demographics brought on by rabid growth in Northern Virginia has turned this part of the Commonwealth into an ugly shade of purple.

I was glad to see the President deliver a good speech.
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Old 01-24-2007, 13:41   #17
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Disclaimer: I have not check this site for validity… but I am posting the link as it was the interesting that this document, a bill for the 109th congress, dated 05/05 carried that same title as one of POTUS’ topics in the State of the Union, that being “Civilian Volunteer Service Reserve”

http://www.theorator.com/bills109/hr2724.html


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Edit-Update: This bill was proposed in a previous session of Congress. Sessions of Congress last two years, and at the end of each session all proposed bills and resolutions that haven't passed are cleared from the books. This bill never became law.
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Old 01-24-2007, 16:07   #18
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During the Senate campaign, his wife said he wouldn't use his son for political gain. That statement didn't jive with the widely-circulated picture of him holding up his son's combat boots during one of his rallies.
What's even more disappointing to me is what seems to be a failure of his son to say, "Dad, thanks for supporting me and I love you, but if you continue to use my service as a political tool, I will make a public statement that you're no better than that Sheehan bitch, and I will sever any and all ties between us. Stop it now, period."
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Old 01-24-2007, 22:32   #19
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I think the Pres. had one of his better public speaking nights. Especially in light of the news clip I just finished watching on the news of a Q&A session after a speech he made earlier today. Of course, his oratory skills have always been....well....rough lets say. Very few verbal mistakes last night and he looked very confident.

I thought some of his domestic energy policy was a little sketchy. I fully understand the need for a reduction of foreign POL's. I am not so certain E85 is the way to go; Good for the environment: Bad for economics. My experience with E85 has been: fuel economy goes to crap and I paid 25-30 cents per gallon more for E85 than what I could buy UL89 for. As I understand it, Ethanol production is pretty pricey and therefore higher gas prices when buying blended fuels. Until technology produces a cheaper process for making and blending Ethanol with petrol, the economics don't make sense to me. Of course forcing industry to comply with heavy-handed Federal laws sometimes produces results and maybe this would be one of those situations. And what ever happened to increasing domestic POL production?

On the topic of healthcare reform; I think the Pres. has a decent plan. I have heard folks all day debating the merits of changing the tax laws for/against a "Healthcare Credit."
Most of the folks who didn't like the idea drug out the tired argument of "what about the poor and the old?" My thoughts: Medicare/Medicaid were designed for those less fortunate, to include the old.
-Soapbox- I think those posing that question need to examine a larger problem: Why has our society gotten to the point where it is ok for total strangers to take care of other peolpes' family members? There is a time and place for this, but it's not during a legislative session. Those sitting in the Ivory Tower inside the beltway need to understand that. I don't have any siblings, but if my/or my wifes parents ever fell tragically ill with a life-altering disease, we would take the burden of caring for them in thier time of need as they did for us as defenseless children. We owe them that much, and when the financial burden gets too tough we are willing to re-evaluate the luxuries we share, make the cuts necessary to minimally sustain, and move on. But I could not justify in my own conscience that I live in a 4,000 sq ' home with 4.5 automobiles, a private plane, and fat bank roll and ask the middle class to pay for my familiy members' medical bills. -off of the SB-
Those for the idea genarally understood that even being part of a HMO merely defrays the cost for medical treatment and will not cover everything. Some "model" employer medical plans cover everything, and some do not. For those small business employers that can't afford to offer a premium health/retirement plan, this concept would enable them to keep good employees without fear of losing them because of medical benefits. Being able to put money into a "health savings plan" or invest in a good health care plan without being taxed (up to $15k) would provide them with a dedicated way to save in the event of the "big one" or buy adequate services to meet thier needs. The concept goes right along with optional retirement/investment plans, similar to a 401K. I like the concept, but I'd like to see more to better understand it.

The Pres's foriegn policy. I thought he stopped shy of saying what really needed to be said. I think he re-presented some of the GWOT & OIF cases and attempted to sure them up, but didn't really make a compelling argument to the genaral public why we need to hand Abu his ass. It kind of sounded like the S-o-t-S address from '05 and '06. He doesn't need to sell those who already get it, but he needs to convince those who oppose his war policies. I know that's a hard sell to those who won't fight for thier own security and survival.

All in all, I thought the President had a decent night.

Just my .01...I lost my other .01 in this terrible economy
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Old 01-25-2007, 01:30   #20
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And what ever happened to increasing domestic POL production?
Alot of it is great PR. Our nations petroleum production "peaked" around 1970. Basically all the easy to get to stuff has been used up, remaining reserves are harder to extract, so the numbers change dramatically.

RE: Ethanol - One effect of all this is that corn prices have jumped, and its causing inflation in Mexico. The are protesting tortilla shortages, sounds like a joke-its not, so we think we have a border problem now, just wait. Also I shutter to think what this is going to do to the price of bourbon. We are growing the most grains now since 1946 when we were also feeding Europe, and demand continues to grow.


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The Pres's foriegn policy. I thought he stopped shy of saying what really needed to be said. I think he re-presented some of the GWOT & OIF cases and attempted to sure them up, but didn't really make a compelling argument to the genaral public why we need to hand Abu his ass. It kind of sounded like the S-o-t-S address from '05 and '06. He doesn't need to sell those who already get it, but he needs to convince those who oppose his war policies. I know that's a hard sell to those who won't fight for thier own security and survival.
If it truly is an existential threat to us, forget a 20k man "surge", enough with the half measures - why not raise up another 500k troops and finish it?

Anything less imho, get Hank Crumpton back in position, adapt, let SF do what it does best, and the rest of the CT and insurgency pro's go to work. The thankless work of small wars and insurgencies in the shadows on our nations behalf, nothing new for these folk. Back to Deal or No Deal for the rest of us.
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Old 01-25-2007, 07:15   #21
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The thankless work of small wars and insurgencies in the shadows on our nations behalf, nothing new for these folk. Back to Deal or No Deal for the rest of us.
100% agreed!
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Edit: Nevermind. Forgot to read the whole post. Sorry.

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