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Old 08-09-2006, 10:27   #16
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May not be a good idea to store it with the hammer cocked. If you need it in an emergency, you're going to have to unzip the case to get to it anyway. Maybe it's safe - I haven't used those; I use a Sig in which case it's safe to carry it in the "de-cocked" position.
OTOH, if I needed to carry a pistol on a SAR mission, I'd rather have it exposed so I can get to it faster.

Just my $.02
FYI, there is no "decocked" position on a 1911. He either has to carry it in Condition 1 or without a round in the chamber.
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Old 08-09-2006, 10:48   #17
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I was looking for something to wear around my chest so that I could carry "off duty" while running. I haven't been able to find something like that yet. I will admit though I haven't really looked hard enough. Jogging with a G34 on the waist is uncomfortable to say the least! And... a G34 is not as big a "Boat Anchor" as an H&K!
Size is not the issue. My point with all 1911, clones, is that they are single action, cocked and locked only. And that they were "State of the Art" in the year 1911. In a world of "choices", (double & single action, ambidexterious safeties, mag catch, slide catch, etc etc etc) the 1911 would be second to last on my list of combat pistols, only the Glock is worse in my opinion.

When you find something to wear while running let me know. I think I'm scaring the neighbors when I wear my M-4 slung over my shoulder while running.
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Old 08-09-2006, 11:00   #18
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I think I'm scaring the neighbors when I wear my M-4 slung over my shoulder while running.
I don't think you need the M-4 to scare the neighbors.
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Old 08-09-2006, 11:04   #19
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Hey, when you are given the choice of a S&W or a Glock, it was a no brainer for me. When Smith's were the only handgun allowed to be carried, we were to carry the S&W 4506. That is about as big and ugly as one could get IMHO. I had no resonable way to carry it off duty so I elected to carry it in the "posterior, lower inguinal, horizontal positioning, slide fastener with quick opening module and in the reinforced nylon package" in tactical black. Now I have a "real" handgun and was wanting something, well, fashionable yet uncomplicated and that doesn't scream out "He's gotta gun, he's gotta a gun!"

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Old 08-09-2006, 11:44   #20
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The Team Sergeant Biathalon. I like it!

I remember seeing a small chest harness for carrying a kahr while running. I will look and see if I can find a link...http://www.survivalsheath.com/holsters/index.htm

This isn't intended to distract from the POK.

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Old 08-09-2006, 12:10   #21
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Yeh, I don't want to hijack Joe's thread either.
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Old 08-09-2006, 12:51   #22
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I think I'm scaring the neighbors when I wear my M-4 slung over my shoulder while running.
LOL - Sounds like the whole "getting along with civilians" thing is going splendidly!

Great review Joe, thanks. Dayum - 4.3 - is that where "Smokin" comes from?
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Old 08-09-2006, 23:48   #23
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I thought you were a COP! Why the need to carry (a boat anchor) concealed?

You're doing SAR? I didn't see a compass, signal mirror, pen flare, spare battery, first aid equipment etc. in your kit....

Pen and pencil? You going to write someone a ticket?

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Too bad in AZ the "Sheriff shall coordinate and conduct any and all Search and Resuce's in there county"

The Camelback has the GPS, Compass, Spare batteries, and a very light first aid kit.

Pen, pencil, and pad of paper are for general to various notes. Such as time, mileage, etc. etc. yes we have to account for that because SAR'S come out of different budgets then regular patrol work.

And Fortunately we don't have to conduct CSAR missions.
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Old 08-09-2006, 23:50   #24
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LOL - Sounds like the whole "getting along with civilians" thing is going splendidly!

Great review Joe, thanks. Dayum - 4.3 - is that where "Smokin" comes from?
Kinda its a hold over from Smokin Joe Frazier and when I used to Comp fight.
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Old 08-10-2006, 08:59   #25
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The Camelback has the GPS, Compass, Spare batteries, and a very light first aid kit.
You sure you've got enough water?


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And Fortunately we don't have to conduct CSAR missions.
Then why the hand cannon?

If I were conducting SAR in your neck of the woods I'd rather be toting an M-4, one mag no extras. (It would stop any bad ass mountain lions that wanted a piece of you.) Then I'd want water, water and more water. A GPS, compass, topo maps, radio, spare batteries, more water, first aid kit, pen flares and a signal mirror. OK, maybe some food...... I'd also want all of this on my back, in a little pack, not on my front.

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Old 08-10-2006, 12:49   #26
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Then why the hand cannon?
Policy...while on duty we have to be armed.

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If I were conducting SAR in your neck of the woods I'd rather be toting an M-4, one mag no extras. (It would stop any bad ass mountain lions that wanted a piece of you.) Then I'd want water, water and more water. A GPS, compass, topo maps, radio, spare batteries, more water, first aid kit, pen flares and a signal mirror. OK, maybe some food...... I'd also want all of this on my back, in a little pack, not on my front.

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Good points, but admin freaks out if we walk around with our rifles and there isn't a "good reason" (good reason= potential bad guy with a weapon ) Also for us Patrol guys we are only on searches for 4-10 hours then the SAR Coordinator and his volunteers get rotated in, we go back to normal duty.
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Old 08-20-2006, 08:53   #27
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Methinks I need to look into one of these for my offroad exploration trips up here in alaska. Wearing a hip holster with a 4 point harness isn't exactly comfortable...

It'd work for me because I could pack a motorola in a radio pouch, various other BS, and my HK to slow a bear down enough to get to my blazer where the carbine and slug gun reside.
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Old 11-27-2006, 02:18   #28
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I recently received the Professional Operators Kit from Blue Line Gear. My purpose for this piece of equipment is for Search and Rescue Missions. SAR missions are one of my primary responsibilities; because of this I wanted a light weight, wearable bag, that could conceal/carry a full size pistol, an extra magazine, a radio, a flash light, pens / pencils, pad of paper, my favorite Blade the Harsey T-3, and other miscellaneous items.

I looked around the internet for several months before I settled on the POK. I read rave reviews about it on badlands so I figured I would give it a try.


More info on the POK from there website.
http://www.professionaloperatorskit.com/pok.php

Hope this was helpful to some.

I dont want to detract from a review of a useful item but dont you think the pack is a bit small for sars? Climbing rope? Food? Water? You could use this in tandem with a backpack I reackon but I have seen event manager's using this for the raid gauloises and southern traverse, but not military as yet..Its more of a pouch to have which you can reach into for small items instead of reaching back into your backpack for small items you will need.

But then again, I am sure this pack has its good uses non the less..
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Old 11-27-2006, 15:35   #29
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NDD.....Where the heck are ours??????
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Old 11-27-2006, 17:07   #30
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NDD.....Where the heck are ours??????
I sent him a note, he says they are being built. Should be any month now.
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