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Old 02-19-2007, 10:51   #16
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Old 02-19-2007, 11:10   #17
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"Anythings fair in love and war"........put business in there too!

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Old 02-19-2007, 21:50   #18
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Did anyone notice...

Yesterday Google made a special image for their search engine logo and linked it to the Chinese New Year info...but today they don't even acknowledge Presidents Day?!?!?
How hard would it have been to have a "Mt Rushmore" imaged into their logo?

Where are they getting their engineers & web designers from? hmm...
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Old 02-19-2007, 22:08   #19
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Did anyone notice...

Yesterday Google made a special image for their search engine logo and linked it to the Chinese New Year info...but today they don't even acknowledge Presidents Day?!?!?
They also didn't do a special image for Veteran's Day.

I've been using Dogpile, one of the better meta search engines, for a while now.

They also put up special graphics for the important days, like Veteran's Day, President's Day, Armed Forces Day, Flag Day...

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Old 02-19-2007, 22:49   #20
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How hard would it have been to have a "Mt Rushmore" imaged into their logo?

Where are they getting their engineers & web designers from? hmm...
They used to swoop into Stanford, MIT, etc. and cherry pick the best Ph.D.'s. Now, the percentage of those hires who were of Chinese or Asian descent, I don't know. When they were dangling pre-IPO shares, coupled with the buzz of being The Tech Company, they could pick the best and the brightest.
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Old 02-20-2007, 03:45   #21
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Wow...get on with your bad self. +1

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Old 02-20-2007, 10:16   #22
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While I find the hypocrisy despicable, Page and Brin got exactly what they bargained for. I'm sure at one point they believed in those ideals, and maybe they still do today. But once they went public, they faced the truth of the markets: the primary goal of the firm is to maximize shareholder wealth. Everything else is irrelevant, unless it contributes to the primary goal.

Many companies and executives are weary of being slaves to the quarterly numbers. Much of the private equity money now is going into taking companies private. I worked for two startups during the internet go-go years. One made it to the IPO, the other one didn't. Today, the preferred play for a tech startup is to do everything possible to entice Google to buy you out.

I hope Page and Brin enjoy their personal jumbo jet and billion dollar net worth. Because none of it came free.
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Old 02-20-2007, 10:20   #23
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They also didn't do a special image for Veteran's Day.

I've been using Dogpile, one of the better meta search engines, for a while now.

They also put up special graphics for the important days, like Veteran's Day, President's Day, Armed Forces Day, Flag Day...

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Thanks. My homepage just went from Google to Dogpile.

Cheers, LL.
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Old 02-20-2007, 11:23   #24
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Google, IMO, is the epitomy of the DoubleSpeak and the "Big Brother is watching you" type of mentality of 1984, and their owners and workers are leftists, which = socialists most likely. I really don't like that company.
The owners may be leftists, but the workers are simply guys who work there.

You know how I know that? My brother in law works for Google. He isn't some socialist, just a techie just as most of the people working there are. To say Google (from a tech perspective) isn't an exciting and innovative place to work would be staying blind.

On the flipside, the internet services providers are scared [read AT&T] because they actually have a monopoly on the plumbing of the internet and till now were sitting happy and cozy. Google isn't the anti-christ nor are the internet service providers helpless creatures.

This is business and they're battling it out as they should. I don't want anyone stifling content or becoming a barrier to information flow for me. Whether it's google or the internet service providers.

I don't like the fact that Google will celebrate every other occasion, yet not American ones. Typical SF bay area stuff, but lets hold our comments to people who run the company and lay its strategy out. Not condem all the people who work there for a living. Microsoft isn't the antichrist, nor is Apple, nor is Google. They're businesses with one goal: profit. The rest of it is at the whims of their own eccentricities, which rich people who're worth billions can afford.
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Old 02-20-2007, 11:45   #25
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Thanks. My homepage just went from Google to Dogpile.

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ditto...
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Old 02-20-2007, 11:57   #26
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Thanks. My homepage just went from Google to Dogpile.

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You know how I know that? My brother in law works for Google. He isn't some socialist, just a techie just as most of the people working there are. To say Google (from a tech perspective) isn't an exciting and innovative place to work would be staying blind.
Not trying to take this too far but Enron was a great place to work too, right before it caused a minor recession. Nazi German Army was a fantastic employer too right up until we entered that war. Reform starts at the grass roots and I think that your brother in law is in a great place to start making a change over there. Encourage him to do that rather than come here and tell us how they are innocent.

Just my .02

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Old 02-20-2007, 14:46   #27
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Not trying to take this too far but Enron was a great place to work too, right before it caused a minor recession. Nazi German Army was a fantastic employer too right up until we entered that war. Reform starts at the grass roots and I think that your brother in law is in a great place to start making a change over there. Encourage him to do that rather than come here and tell us how they are innocent.
Enron broke the law and conducted poor business practice and Nazi's were murderers responsible for genocide. Google is a tech company with billionaire hippies as owners. IMO, that is taking the comparison too far. The only reason this conversation is happening is because they want the Chinese market and would censor content, yet be spoiled kids and stick the thumb at the plate which feeds them (USA) by taking a stand against symbols of American history.

I do agree that reform starts at the grass roots, but the way to force change for a business is through the market. Also, I am the one claiming my brother in law's innocence (when a broad brush gets painted calling all Google employees socialists, strong words. We only know of managements attitude, not individuals working for a private company) he is not a part of this forum. As the company grows, more will have input into it and the bosses will have delegate more.

What Google is guilty of is doing what many corporations in America do - trying to make their top dollar but not own up to their misguided thoughts until called out on (when the bottom line gets hit.). If one has an issue, alternatives like dogpile are a place to start. Those against Microsoft's IE use Mozilla's firefox or other browsers.

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Old 02-20-2007, 20:50   #28
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