Dog Handler SF MOS

[rubberneck]

Originally Posted by QRQ 30

What breed is the pooch on the right?

That is one of those new fangled cross breeds like the puggle (half pug half beagle). In this case the dog on the right is half Field Spainel and half Pug or commonly referred to as fugly.

[Jack Moroney (RIP)]

Originally Posted by NousDefionsDoc

How about the food?

Perhaps we are dealing with the 1st SFG guys bringing in fresh food to the indig

We used to jump a St Bernard pup in C Company 10th, but that was because it was a mascot. In a subsequent tour they were jumping a piglet for the same reason.


But that was back when we had LTs on teams and could make them animal control officers to go along with some of their other "unofficial" duties like generator seat jumper, wind dummy, an M-5 kits supplement supply officer.

[uboat509]

Let's not discount this out of hand. I could certainly see a dog with a friggin' "laserbeam" on his head have all sorts of uses.

SFC W

[keith]

Originally Posted by NousDefionsDoc

Keith,
To what missions are dogs considered to be an asset? I would think guarding a facility and perhaps post-incident response. Any others?

and the answer:

Originally Posted by uboat509

Let's not discount this out of hand. I could certainly see a dog with a friggin' "laserbeam" on his head have all sorts of uses.

I wasn't trying to say it was a good idea with this topic, just saying I heard of it and wondering if there was a use/need for a dog that I wasn't aware of. I wouldn't dare act like I understand based on my "book knowledge".

[Warrior-Mentor]

Originally Posted by uboat509

Let's not discount this out of hand. I could certainly see a dog with a friggin' "laserbeam" on his head have all sorts of uses.

SFC W

It's been good for a laugh or two anyway.

[Basenshukai]

I'll answer this from my own experience in practical application where guys want to kill you.

These dogs solve the following issues:

1) Your GMV Ground Assault Convoy gets into a chokepoint between a river and some high terrain. It looks like a great spot for an IED. The dog dismounts and the handler lets him loose. The dog sits in the middle of the road. You send an element forward with metal detectors and they find the wires on the side of the road. You probably saved some lives that day.

2) You do a DA mission that requires a site exploitation afterwards. The longer your remain on the OBJ, the longer your "fans" have to place little surprises for you on your way back. You are either looking for ordnance, or similar material. Your dog comes into the compound once it is secured and finds a cache of 107 rockets within minutes. It would have taken us humans hours to find it in that great hiding spot. Guess who won't get rocketted for a few days?

3) The dogs can be quite intimidating as well and people tend to fear them more than your M-4. I know it sounds crazy, but I've seen it with my own eyes. Folks give you a wide berth when one of your team members is a cousin of the wolf family.

4) The dog, over time, becomes very protective of the team. When sleeping in a RON site (Patrol Base), he usually keeps guard over those that sleep. It's weird. I don't know why they do this. I guess that's his pack as he sees it. It's kind of funny when you patrol with a new attachment that the dog does not know well. If the "new" guy approaches a team member while he is unaware, or asleep, the dog will look at him like "And where the f__k do you think you're going?" (That made me smile. There is a good story attached to this.)

There are plenty of other examples, but OPSEC prevails.

Did the popcorn come with butter?

[jbour13]

Nothing is impossible.....but it's not likely.

A friend of mine is a dog handler in the 16th MP BDE here on Bragg. I showed him this and he said sure,.....how you gonna keep him cool? The dogs get AC in the sandbox. He'd also made the comment that if the dog goes T/U, the handler is now somebody's Beeotch.

The dog has it's purpose, sniffing for UXO/ IED's is plus in my book. They'd be good to take house to house on raids to seek out munitions and get that extra "compliance" if someone is unwilling to open a door. I know you get chomper to get a mouth full of my a$$, I'll do about anything.

[Tetrian]

Basenshukai - give us the storry please

[QRQ 30]

Originally Posted by Jack Moroney

Perhaps we are dealing with the 1st SFG guys bringing in fresh food to the indig

We used to jump a St Bernard pup in C Company 10th, but that was because it was a mascot. In a subsequent tour they were jumping a piglet for the same reason.


But that was back when we had LTs on teams and could make them animal control officers to go along with some of their other "unofficial" duties like generator seat jumper, wind dummy, an M-5 kits supplement supply officer.

Verdammt!! We had to carry our own booze!!

[Warrior-Mentor]

Doesn't make them a permanent attachment to an ODA...more like a SOT-A...a special attachment as mission dictates.

[Basenshukai]

Originally Posted by jbour13

Nothing is impossible.....but it's not likely.

My example is not theoretical. We use the K-9s very often. And, yeah, it's hot; it's a desert. And some days is not good to take the dog out. A K-9 is not a bad "tool" when applied properly. It will not become a permanent fixture in a detachment. If the dog goes T/U, the handler goes away on the next A/C with his dog and a replacement comes in, if available. If a vehicle goes T/U, we leave it in the firebase and don't take it on a mission. It's very simple, really.

And, our handlers wouldn't mind being our "beeotch" because they'd know that their lives are in our hands and we will protect them just as they protect us (with their skills and their dogs). We don't mistreat our assets. Maybe, your friend has been attached to other folks. I only know how we do things. Others? Who knows?

[MtnGoat]

Originally Posted by Warrior-Mentor

Doesn't make them a permanent attachment to an ODA...more like a SOT-A...a special attachment as mission dictates.

Just like Basenshukai said - they work and are a add "tool" for a ODA to use. But its all on how well you know how to use those extra people that you can request for a mission. Most don't like NON-SF types on a mission, we don't like to baby sit others.
But Dogs on some mission do work - their an addition to the ODA. Not a 18 SERIES MOS and no ASI.

[QRQ 30]

Most don't like NON-SF types on a mission, we don't like to baby sit others.

That attitude quickly evaporates with experience and maturity.

Augmentation personnel perform valuable duties that you can't. I don't recall ever having to baby-sit. Normally only the very best volunteered and were assigned.

[QRQ 30]

Most don't like NON-SF types on a mission, we don't like to baby sit others.

That attitude quickly evaporates with experience and maturity.

Augmentation personnel perform valuable duties that you can't. I don't recall ever having to baby-sit. Normally only the very best volunteered and were assigned. Our augmentation personnel were considered as part of the team.

[Sdiver]

Originally Posted by Tetrian

Basenshukai - give us the storry please

That'll be $100.00 for the story, and $12.00 for the Rat....

.....wait a sec.....


Damn....wrong thread.