Ebola: "Out of Control in West Africa"

[Paslode]

Hell we not doing bad, only 2 sick nurses thus far from Thomas Duncan......Lets spin the roulette wheel again......

OCTOBER 17, 2014

Washington, DC – Judicial Watch has learned that the Obama administration is actively formulating plans to admit Ebola-infected non-U.S. citizens into the United States for treatment. Specifically, the goal of the administration is to bring Ebola patients into the United States for treatment within the first days of diagnosis.

It is unclear who would bear the high costs of transporting and treating non-citizen Ebola patients. The plans include special waivers of laws and regulations that ban the admission of non-citizens with a communicable disease as dangerous as Ebola.

One source tells us that the Obama administration is keeping this plan secret from Congress. The source is concerned that the proposal is illegal; endangers the public health and welfare; and should require the approval of Congress

http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/20...u-s-treatment/

[The Reaper]

Who knew people would lie?

Certainly not this Administration.

TR

[Go Devil]

Originally Posted by Snaquebite

I find it strange that none of Patient 0's family or friends who were in close contact with him after he arrived have yet to show any signs of contracting the disease. They were definitely in contact with him unprotected longer than anyone who treated him after he was diagnosed.

They were probably aware that he had Ebola when he arrived and they avoided him "like the plague".
The next few weeks could prove to be traumatic.

[Richard]

Got your "Ebola-C" yet" These hucksters have already sold over $1M in product in the last couple of weeks.

http://ebola-c.com/

I can't imagine what it's going to be like for our national public transportation network when we enter into the annual upcoming holiday travel surge during the expected cold/flu season combined with the growing ebola phobia.

And so it goes...

Richard

[Old Dog New Trick]

Where I'm at today. One infected Ebola person and how fast would this quarantine a state.

[YM Cating]

Originally Posted by Old Dog New Trick

Back in the 90s when I was an 18D, I read "The Hot Zone" (Richard Preston) about Ebola and thought right there and then to not just walk away from medicine, but run!

The fact that this disease is going wild now is or should be seen as a testament that organizations like the CDC, WHO, and anyone else involved don't have a clue as to how to isolate it and prevent its worldwide infection in a global environment.

Recent revelations that the CDC lost control of live viruses and stored others in a non-secure research facility should tell you they may have the best of intentions but lack the fortitude to live up to their charter of protecting the public.

Whatever protocols are in place in Georgia and the route there from Africa, I hope that nothing goes wrong. I hope that they find a cure without infecting others and that they have the best controls to protect anyone and everyone that comes into contact with this person and those in the host county.

Ebola as a bioterrorism weapon is on the horizon so for their part a cure and vaccine is needed...Godspeed.

What can you expect? They hired and armed a 3 time felon as a security contractor at CDC Atlanta. Makes you wonder if they bother to check if any of their doctors even have diplomas. It wouldn't be any surprise if one day a story was released saying that the contractor had been stealing and selling vials of deadly diseases just for kicks and giggles. And of course no one has been held responsible for that wildly gross negligence.

If they can't even run a basic, 30 second check against the federal data base, I highly doubt they have the competence to handle this problem.

A. Close the Southern Boarder, have the National Guard link arms and form a damn line if you have to but do it, we do have the man power. B. Block all flights from infected countries. C. Deny entry to anyone who has passed through an infected country within the last 21 days of their leaving that country. D. If someone has passed through an infected country but it's been more than 21 days, quarantine and examine just to be safe. If cleared, they go about their business.

[YM Cating]

Originally Posted by Richard

Got your "Ebola-C" yet" These hucksters have already sold over $1M in product in the last couple of weeks.

http://ebola-c.com/

I can't imagine what it's going to be like for our national public transportation network when we enter into the annual upcoming holiday travel surge during the expected cold/flu season combined with the growing ebola phobia.

And so it goes...

Richard

I can't wait for the class action on that one.

How does one exactly 'SPECIALLY FORMULATE' a vitamin for Ebola? Maybe I'm wrong on this because I'm not a chemist, but I'm pretty sure vitamin C is Vitamin C.

[BryanK]

A new possible case in NY. It's okay, let's keep those flights rolling in

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2014/10/...new-york-city/

[Team Sergeant]

Originally Posted by BryanK

A new possible case in NY. It's okay, let's keep those flights rolling in

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2014/10/...new-york-city/

No it's ok the democrats said so. Let's just keep those flights coming into one of the most densely populated cities in the world. I'm sure the DHS and TSA have it all under control.....

What could happen?

[SF_BHT]

Originally Posted by Team Sergeant

No it's ok the democrats said so. Let's just keep those flights coming into one of the most densely populated cities in the world. I'm sure the DHS and TSA have it all under control.....

What could happen?

[The Reaper]

Originally Posted by Team Sergeant

No it's ok the democrats said so. Let's just keep those flights coming into one of the most densely populated cities in the world. I'm sure the DHS and TSA have it all under control.....

What could happen?

Hey, its not like those huge metropolitan areas are chock full of conservatives either.

TR

[Paslode]

Originally Posted by Broadsword2004

So...two doctors in Africa who were treating patients with Ebola ended up contracting it anyway, but then a doctor who was doing the same thing returns home to New York City. While very commendable what he was doing, it doesn't occur to him to maybe take some precautions since if other doctors caught Ebola, he might have inadvertently caught it too while over there? Instead he goes out and about, riding taxis, the subway, bowling alley, etc...it is almost comical, like he was purposely doing everything he could to try and spread the virus (I know he wasn't, but if there's anyway to do it, that's how).

I am really surprised, especially in light of the original two doctors that caught it, and nurses that caught it, that they do not have a mandatory quarantine period for personnel returning from treating Ebola patients in Africa. Instead they just return and are free to go out and about. I mean we used to quarantine the ASTRONAUTS who visited the Moon, a place with no atmosphere, and in completely sealed space suits, just in case, somehow, they contracted some alien disease of some type.

There ought to be some type of government requirement that if you go to such a region to treat such people, when you return home, you go into a quarantine before you can go out and about (a quarantine conducent to the incubation period of the disease they were treating). Or maybe quarantine them before they come home even.

He has the 'Right' to be here, Obama and Tom Frieden said so and it is also stated on the CDC website...

A U.S. citizen has the right to return to the United States. Although CDC can use several measures to prevent disease from being introduced in the United States, CDC must balance the public health risk to others with the rights of the individual. In this situation, the patients who came back to the United States for care were transported with appropriate infection control procedures in place to prevent the disease from being transmitted to others.

http://www.cdc.gov/vhf/ebola/outbrea...africa/qa.html

There ought to be some type of government requirement

Ebola in the U.S.: Stricter travel quarantine practices dropped by Obama admin. in 2010

[Badger52]

Originally Posted by Broadsword2004

There ought to be some type of government requirement that if you go to such a region to treat such people, when you return home, you go into a quarantine before you can go out and about (a quarantine conducent to the incubation period of the disease they were treating). Or maybe quarantine them before they come home even.

There you go (sorta).


So... just for discussion, how is such a proposed required quarantine implemented?

"You're returning from an area with heavy exposure to Ebola. You're coming with us to be quarantined."
"Uh, no I'm not."
Play that tape to the end.

[SFOC0173]

Accusations of Ebola Cover-up:
http://www.infowars.com/medical-prof...-cases-in-u-s/

Russian Military Labs:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/nation...c67_story.html

[The Reaper]

Excellent article.

TR


Just When You Thought it Was Safe to Come Out of the Containment Unit
by Gary Anderson

Journal Article | October 25, 2014 - 7:02am

http://smallwarsjournal.com/jrnl/art...ntainment-unit


There has been a lot of alarm spread about Ebola and the past weeks, and I am loathe to add fuel to the fire, but I am concerned about the possible weaponizing of Ebola by Islamic extremists. I was the Chief of Staff of The Marine Corps Warfighting Lab in the late 90s, and we examined the problem; at the time we concluded that it is too hard to turn Ebola into a weapon due to the difficulty of transmission. However, what we did not consider at the time was deliberate transmission by a human being to other people effectively becoming, an Ebola Suicide Device (ESD). If that sounds far-fetched, consider the fact that Yemeni terrorists developed the shoe bomb and have been reportedly working on an undetectable toothpaste bomb. These efforts require a certain amount of technological sophistication; the ESD would require none. Now also consider the fact that the Islamic State has used chemical weapons in Iraq and has actively recruited American school girls as "useful idiots".

Both the Yemenis and they Syrian-based Khorason Group are well financed and have American passport holders in their ranks. Buying people airplane tickets to an infected African country and allowing these volunteers to wallow among the victims for a few days before heading for the US would not be hard since there are no travel restrictions in place and the infiltrators would not yet show symptoms; it would be fairly easy to have the human time bombs ill and infecting many victims before they themselves become too sick to move.

Our current precautions at the five American international airports designated to screen incoming passengers for Ebola assume that the passengers involved are unaware that they may be infected and have nothing to hide. Even a passenger who suspects that he or she may be infected and is trying to get to the United States in the chance of getting better treatment is not likely to be deliberately trying to infect other people. Consequently, we may have created a critical vulnerability through lack of anticipation. An American doctor recently tested positive for Ebola, and has been loose in New York for several weeks.
A reasonable precaution would be to check the passports of those passengers coming into the country from the affected nations to see if the holder has recently been in Turkey, Yemen, or other nations used as terror transit points so they can receive special attention. It would be considered to be politically incorrect to profile military age Muslim men and women who fit that travel footprint, but then again, we are much better at closing the barn door after the horse has gone AWOL than we are at anticipating asymmetric attacks.

Another potential danger is a home grown terrorist, such as the afore-mentioned school girls, making a quick trip from a place like Minneapolis to Liberia or Sierra Leone. Again, neither of these places is a tourist magnet. I'm not suggesting a McCarthy-like persecution for anyone visiting those countries, but with the exception of health care professionals and reporters, I'd be a little suspicious of any Americans junketing in a hot zone.

Our government policy makers have ruled out flight restrictions for reasons that probably have more to do with progressive sensibilities than national security concerns, but they could at least allow border officials who are doing the screening to use common sense in evaluating the profiles of incoming travelers and the latitude to temporarily quarantine folks whose stories, "just don't seem right".

(Cont. at link above)