08-28-2020, 14:59
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I've been reminding people that the lefties started the shooting three years ago, June 14, 2017, in Alexandria, VA.
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08-28-2020, 15:57
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Originally Posted by JJ_BPK
The last one should have received a double tap..
He didn't drop the pistol
He didn't fall unconscious
He was still a threat 
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https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/...ive/5-2362796/
Well I ll be darned to find this elaborate, objective analysis on arfdotcom!
Turns out lefty was feigning surrender WHILE holding pistol. What on earth!?!
AND he didn’t get ventilated then.
He really had the choice to disengage.
He chose poorly
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08-28-2020, 17:43
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#243
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Originally Posted by frostfire
https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/...ive/5-2362796/
Well I ll be darned to find this elaborate, objective analysis on arfdotcom!
Turns out lefty was feigning surrender WHILE holding pistol. What on earth!?!
AND he didn’t get ventilated then.
He really had the choice to disengage.
He chose poorly
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That's the most detailed analysis that I've seen so far. Thanks for posting it.
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08-28-2020, 19:49
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Originally Posted by bblhead672
That's the most detailed analysis that I've seen so far. Thanks for posting it.
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Ditto. That's worth bookmarking and, sadly, for the theater to come among other reasons.
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08-28-2020, 19:55
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Frostfire, thanks very much for posting that. Lines up with my thoughts very closely and provides some answers to open questions I still had. Also provided some relevant info not said anywhere else that may provide him a solid defense.
I think at the end of the day (trial) no man or woman will find him “guilty” of anything.
Lesson for all, (as I remember from my training masters) if you are going to stop and render aid/assistance at a calamity...park beyond it and walk back. So when everything is done you can be the hero no one noticed and you don’t have to navigate around the emergency vehicles to leave.
I’d add, no one in a situation like this is your friend and certainly not someone with “Press” painted on their black hoodie. Speaking of hoodies wear a mask, and all other non-descript clothing and headgear...be able to return to you vehicle past the emergency ones and drive away the unknown hero.
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08-28-2020, 22:38
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Lefties started shooting long time ago
Antifa and BLM have their roots in the Weathermen Underground. There are two movies out about them and you should watch them.
They considered themselves the 5th Column of the NVA.
https://www.amazon.com/Weather-Under...s%2C174&sr=8-2
Search the forbidden zone for the other.
There is some speculation that the Leftists fired first at Kent State.
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08-28-2020, 23:27
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Should have
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Originally Posted by JJ_BPK
The last one should have received a double tap..
He didn't drop the pistol
He didn't fall unconscious
He was still a threat 
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Mr. Gaige Grosskreutz even admitted to his friend that he his only regret is not killing the kid and hesitating to pull the gun before emptying the entire mag into him." Gaige is part of the People's Revolution Movement of Milwaukee...
It is too bad Kyle didn't get that double and triple tap on Grosskreutz one less commie in the world.
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08-29-2020, 06:09
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Kyle Rittenhouse lawyer’s issue statement.
Complete article at link.
Kyle Rittenhouse Lawyers: He Is No Racist; Exercised Right to Self-Defense
JOEL B. POLLAK28 Aug 2020
Breitbart
Lawyers for Kyle Rittenhouse, the 17-year-old who allegedly shot three and killed two people during a riot in Kenosha, Wisconsin, this week, issued a lengthy statement Friday evening after delaying his extradition from Illinois to face trial for murder.
“Kyle did nothing wrong,” attorney John Pierce of Pierce Bainbridge wrote. “He exercised his God-given, Constitutional, common law and statutory law right to self-defense.”
In his statement, Pierce claimed that Rittenhouse had been asked by a local auto dealer to protect the premises from rioters. He suggested that before the shooting incident, Rittenhouse had provided first aid to protesters who had been injured.
Later, Pierce wrote, Rittenhouse was “accosted by multiple rioters who recognized that he had been attempting to protect a business the mob wanted to destroy.” That, he said, led to the violent confrontations that followed.
Pierce concluded:
A 17-year old child should not have to take up arms in America to protect life and property. That is the job of state and local governments. However, those governments have failed, and law-abiding citizens have no choice but to protect their own communities as their forefathers did at Lexington and Concord in 1775. Kyle is not a racist or a white supremacist. He is a brave, patriotic, compassionate law-abiding American who loves his country and his community. He did nothing wrong. He defended himself, which is a fundamental right of all Americans given by God and protected by law. He is now in the crosshairs of institutional forces that are much more powerful than him. But he will stand up to them and fight not only for himself, but for all Americans and their beloved Constitution. We will never leave his side until he is victorious in that fight.
https://www.breitbart.com/crime/2020...-self-defense/
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08-29-2020, 06:28
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Originally Posted by tonyz
Kyle Rittenhouse lawyer’s issue statement.
Complete article at link.
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Thanks very much; will check out during my AM "route" and is at top of the list.
I'm very glad that - judging from the language used - someone is there to not only take that stand & approach, but it sounds like they are resolved to gird up this young man who must feel as if his world was crashing off the cliff; that he's not alone. That is a huge thing, as well as a testament to the cowardice of the civil authorities, all the way up to the pasty-assed governor.
I'd also lay money that in many cities & towns throughout deplorable land, LL's are being noted that have neighbors resolving to always be in pairs or larger.
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08-29-2020, 06:51
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Lin Wood response to a terrorist Twit
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When you start manufacturing facts to support false accusations, you get into trouble under the law of defamation. Kyle did not carry a gun across state lines. The gun belonged to his friend, a Wisconsin resident. The gun never left the State of Wisconsin.
Truth always prevails.
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08-29-2020, 09:10
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When you start manufacturing facts to support false accusations, you get into trouble under the law of defamation. Kyle did not carry a gun across state lines. The gun belonged to his friend, a Wisconsin resident. The gun never left the State of Wisconsin.
Truth always prevails.
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This is great but other then an NFA regulated firearm, crossing state lines with a rifle isn't a crime? Unless I'm missing something.
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08-29-2020, 10:11
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Originally Posted by Old Dog New Trick
Frostfire, thanks very much for posting that. Lines up with my thoughts very closely and provides some answers to open questions I still had. Also provided some relevant info not said anywhere else that may provide him a solid defense.
I think at the end of the day (trial) no man or woman will find him “guilty” of anything.
Lesson for all, (as I remember from my training masters) if you are going to stop and render aid/assistance at a calamity...park beyond it and walk back. So when everything is done you can be the hero no one noticed and you don’t have to navigate around the emergency vehicles to leave.
I’d add, no one in a situation like this is your friend and certainly not someone with “Press” painted on their black hoodie. Speaking of hoodies wear a mask, and all other non-descript clothing and headgear...be able to return to you vehicle past the emergency ones and drive away the unknown hero.
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Good advice! I never had that forethought before to park beyond when rendering aid. I've walked beyond plenty of times past my car into shops and crowded area when I sensed people with questionable motives were in proximity.
The thread OP has a good tactical lessons on "checking your baffles." The young patriot got smacked from behind numerous times. Thankfully none of them debilitated him.
After getting sucker punched/beat up senseless on the way home, I quickly learned in highschool to always check my 3,6, and 9. I can check my 6 while casually checking my 3 or 9. The peripheral vision does not see details well, but senses movement very well ie. anything approaching fast from from behind
A colleague of mine gave a sensible gracious interpretation of the incidents during the chase. It is possible (regardless of their rap sheet) the people who battered Kyle could have thought they were trying to stop a mass shooter *shrugs*
So from that angle, then the skater's gf can rightfully cling to the memory of her deceased bf as a "hero"
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08-29-2020, 11:28
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This is great but other then an NFA regulated firearm, crossing state lines with a rifle isn't a crime? Unless I'm missing something.
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No, it's not - white noise being made by the OPFOR. Certainly not carrying INTO Wisconsin. We don't care. We might arm some resistance members and send them back into Crook County, IL but you can bring up here whatever you want to party with.
One other possibility is that it may also be a pre-emptive to address a couple of residual issues, e.g., minor in possession IN ILLINOIS until he would've crossed Pikeville or 128th St., as well as if he had it IN ILLINOIS, parents are liable. Don't know if the commie state has extra enhancers, but he also would've been unable to have one of their permission slips, aka FOID (Firearm Owner's ID), required in that state in addition to all other hoops just to own (incl ammo). IANAL but if I were his, his "friend" in WI who loaned it to him is not my concern. HE (and to a certain extent his parents) are absolutely my concern.
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08-30-2020, 11:13
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Think of the changing narrative if CNN and the democratic politicians conspiring with their lies....
A young man travels to support BLM protest is forced to take up arms to protect his own life when ANTIFA turns the protest into a violent riot.
Nope Nope Nope
CNN, Joe Biden, and Kamalamal Harass cannot let that stand.
The lying liars must tell their lies
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08-30-2020, 11:55
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Uman
Antifa and BLM have their roots in the Weathermen Underground. There are two movies out about them and you should watch them.
They considered themselves the 5th Column of the NVA.
https://www.amazon.com/Weather-Under...s%2C174&sr=8-2
Search the forbidden zone for the other.
There is some speculation that the Leftists fired first at Kent State.
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Good stuff, thanks!
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