Obama Backs Gay Marriage

[Hand]

I found this in an early review of the study:

The Study’s Sample
On that score, there is one significant strength to this study which makes it stand out. Unlike prior studies, the New Family Structures Study (NFSS) is based on a national probability sampled population. This is the gold standard for all social science studies, and it’s extremely rare for a study to achieve that mark. As far as I am aware, all of the studies to date of gay and lesbian parenting use non-representative convenience samples. National probability samples, unlike convenience samples, are important because they alone can be generalized to the broader populations, to the extent that key characteristics in the design of the probability sample (demographics, etc.) match those of the general population. Convenience samples can’t do that.

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I believe the most telling research would compare two pairs of adults, one male and one female, one pair raised in a loving same sex home and the other in a loving traditional home. (Does traditional still mean mother/father?) But even this study would be skewed from the start because the children of the traditional parents would actually be their own offspring. Thus a clear picture of the tendencies of a child via inherited or learned traits could not be drawn from the same sex parents the way they could with traditional parents (drive, intelligence, health etc).

While this thread is not about children of homosexual parents, the mentality of most individuals in our country is as follows: First comes love, then comes marriage, then comes mommy with the baby carriage. The gay couples I know have this same mentality (strangely enough). In this light, a discussion of gay marriage must surely address the subject of 'gay families' as well IMO.

With respect.

[afchic]

Originally Posted by Hand

I found this in an early review of the study:



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I believe the most telling research would compare two pairs of adults, one male and one female, one pair raised in a loving same sex home and the other in a loving traditional home. (Does traditional still mean mother/father?) But even this study would be skewed from the start because the children of the traditional parents would actually be their own offspring. Thus a clear picture of the tendencies of a child via inherited or learned traits could not be drawn from the same sex parents the way they could with traditional parents (drive, intelligence, health etc).

While this thread is not about children of homosexual parents, the mentality of most individuals in our country is as follows: First comes love, then comes marriage, then comes mommy with the baby carriage. The gay couples I know have this same mentality (strangely enough). In this light, a discussion of gay marriage must surely address the subject of 'gay families' as well IMO.

With respect.

If you read the entire text of the review you highlighted above, you will see where the review author says this study is comparing apples to elephants. Just sayin"

[Hand]

Originally Posted by afchic

If you read the entire text of the review you highlighted above, you will see where the review author says this study is comparing apples to elephants. Just sayin"

While not disagreeing with you ma'm, this study at least offers some insight into the possible repercussions of embracing gay marriage as a society when viewed from the angle of the resulting benefits to that society. Marraige between traditional couples is granted special privileges (partly) because the result of that matrimony benefits society (more producers, tax payers, soldiers etc). Once the gays win acceptance of their 'right' to marry in the traditional sense (its going to happen, its just a matter of when), they gain the benefits without being capable of producing anything to society. The Regnerus study, with its flaws, at least opens up the discussion that though gay couples may be able to adopt, that the return value they can offer (in a percentage of cases) ie new producers, tax payers, soldiers etc, have a higher chance of being flawed and/or less productive/useful to society than offspring from traditional couples.
Following that line of reasoning, if the chance that a gay couples 'offspring' has less of a chance of being stable, capable, solid contributing members of society than even a less than ideal traditional couple, is it worth granting them the special privilege of state recognized matrimony and the associated benefits if the utility gained by society is minimal to non-existent?

Respectfully...