Defense Secretary to Open All Combat Jobs to Women

[Badger52]

Originally Posted by cbtengr

Wouldn't you think as a West Pointer she would feel a bit sheepish about backing into this position on an exception to Army policy.

Army policy is just published words. She's not an exception, she's just what they're looking for. No way that wasn't going to be approved; these days a negative endorsement on something like that would get you PCS'd to supervise tree cutting on Shemya.

[Razor]

Actually, according to the 05 Apr 16 MILPER msg 16-096, she received 3 exceptions to policy:

1) Applicants were supposed to be from YG 14 or 15; CPT Griest is YG 11, 3 years too late according to this standard

2) Applicants were supposed to attend IN or AR BOLC; CPT Griest just finished the MCCC, which is not a comparable course by any standard

3) Applicants were supposed to complete a minimum of 1 year of IN or AR PL time before attending MCCC; as noted above, CPT Griest did not serve as an IN PL for any length of time before being allowed to attend MCCC--the third standard that was waived for her

So, while the SECDEF, CSA and everyone else in the chain of command continue to insist that standards will not be lowered, that is exactly what happened in this precedence-setting, 'historic' event, x3.

Standards! Huh! Good Good y'all...what are they good for? Absolutely nothing; say it again!

[Pete]

Originally Posted by Razor

...1) Applicants were supposed to be from YG 14 or 15; CPT Griest is YG 11, 3 years too late according to this standard.....

When is YG 11's first look for Major?

I ask because it would seem she is 3 years behind her soon to be "peers". Haven't they done their Platoon Leader, Company Commander time and moved on to a staff position?

A person would think her records wouldn't look that good to a board. Well, except for the "first female" part.

[ddoering]

I'm sure the picture will make up for any deficiencies in her records.

[Box]

Originally Posted by Pete

When is YG 11's first look for Major?

I ask because it would seem she is 3 years behind her soon to be "peers". Haven't they done their Platoon Leader, Company Commander time and moved on to a staff position?

A person would think her records wouldn't look that good to a board. Well, except for the "first female" part.

She has no "peers"

[xollie316]

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[glebo]

Originally Posted by xollie316

Her board will meet in 2020 with a possibility for below the zone in 2019. I'm sure she will be a stellar candidate for it as well.

She's not far behind her YG however. I'm 2008 and still in my KD time on an ODA.

I can't imagine being her young gung-ho infantry PLs being assigned to her tutelage, knowing full well they can't question it, complain, or do anything but support it lest they jeopardize their young careers. Getting their formations to respect her will be termed a 'leadership challenge' and its one I do not envy them for.

Ahh, those pesky 2d and 3d order effect things...I'm sure the senior leadership thought that out.....said no one EVER...

[DIYPatriot]

Originally Posted by Billy L-bach

She has no "peers"

By the time Ash Carter gets finished, I'm sure she'll have plenty of peers.

ETA:

My wife and another colleague of hers (both are soon to be O3), were approached at the early part of the year and encouraged/asked if they would like to transfer to IN or AR. Both said no. Talked to my wife about that and her sentiments were, "I enlisted as an MP, cut my teeth on all-things MP then crossed over to the dark side and I'm an XO in an MP Co. I have no clue how IN or any other branch operates - what sense does it make to transfer as an O3 with zero time in combat arms??? I'm not going to be part of their experiment."

Some get it.

[tom kelly]

First Female Ranger to become the CO of an Airborne BCT? or even better The first female Ranger to be the CO of a SF Group.....There is no limit to PC BULLSHIT. JUST LOOK AT THE H C Campaign, NEVER MENTIONS THE FBI INVESTIGATION; IF THE FBI DIRECTOR RECOMMENDS A + NUMBER OF COUNT INDICTMENTS; WILL THE AG GO ALONG & HAVE HER ARRESTED? ......tom kelly

[pcfixer]

Political correctness in military with women in combat or combat leader roles is very dangerous.

[Razor]

Originally Posted by cbtengr

Wouldn't you think as a West Pointer she would feel a bit sheepish about backing into this position on an exception to Army policy.

HA-ha-ha-ha-ha-ho-ho-hee-hee-ha-ha-ha-ha!

That place is a veritable proving ground for forced gender integration. If you haven't heard, in the last year the first female CSM and Commandant (1-star) have made their place in history, and just this week RUMINT has started that the current male Dean (1-star) will retire soon and be replaced by the first female to hold the position. That means 3 of the 4 top positions will be women, and the current male Superintendent (3-star) should be retiring within the next year. I would not be surprised in the least if he is replaced by the first female Supe, making the entire command team at USMA female.

Hooray for manufactured gender integration success!

[PSM]

Originally Posted by Brush Okie

Screw it, lets just bar males from military service. For thousands of years males have born the brunt and died in war while women sat safely at home. Its just not fair, women need to take up the slack and do all the fighting from now on. I see on TV where women are not only equal to men in fighting prowess but superior in intellect, maturity and judgement. Men can stay home, unless they identify as a woman, and women, gays transgenders and what ever other pervert freak is in voge this week can go to war and work. Fuck it, I am done. The lesbian liberals think they can do better let them have at it. In fact every female, faggot, transvestite, and dyke should do mandatory military service just like males have done in the past.

Why the pink font?

Pat

[Razor]

Correction on my previous post about USMA--the official announcement of the President's nomination of COL Cindy Jebb as the next Dean was just released.

I also failed to point out that 2016 is the 40th anniversary of women being admitted to USMA as cadets, and the "Athena's Arena" conference at West Point celebrating this 'milestone' is ongoing.

[bailaviborita]

Agenda:

Choose from one of the following sessions: Leading Women and Men through SHARP or
In and Out: Other Army Components- Service beyond Active Duty
or
Lead Like a Girl: Sisterhood and Overcoming Adversity

[bailaviborita]

Workshops for Athenas Arena:

How Does My Intersectionality (Race and Gender) Change My Experience?

Join us for an insider look at how the experience of minority women differ from their peers. Learn what challenges these women faced and how they were able to find success.