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Old 02-25-2013, 18:35   #211
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The rest will suffer indeed. I was listening to talk radio this morning, and they were discussing how Beretta is going elsewhere should the governors' gun bill go all the way. Link:

Washington Post article
I don't understand why ANY national or international-level business stays in the PDRM. Those idiots in Assapolis spend their days trying to figure out creative ways to rip everyone off. Virginia is too close (but they are being overwhelmed as well).

Beretta...head on down to the Tidewater region. You'll be welcomed I'm sure.

I'd be shaking the dust from my sandals as soon as possible.
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Old 02-26-2013, 14:47   #212
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Guntersville authorities would confiscate guns of “unruly” individuals during disaste

Guntersville authorities would confiscate guns of “unruly” individuals during disasters

http://www.infowars.com/city-wants-p...during-crisis/

Why the push for this law? As the individuals state in the story LEOs already have the power to deal with "unruly" individuals.

"Guntersville (Ala.) Mayor Leigh Dollar is working with city officials to pass an ordinance that would give police the power to “disarm individuals” during a disaster, a chilling example of how the second amendment is being assaulted via the back door..........................."

"Give us your guns" "No" "Unruly - take 'um down"
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Old 02-26-2013, 15:33   #213
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I'd be shaking the dust from my sandals as soon as possible.
Come on down to Texas, the weather is fine....except for Amarillo.....
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Old 02-26-2013, 18:22   #214
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Lotta pre-emption stuff, but...

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Guntersville authorities would confiscate guns of “unruly” individuals during disasters
Thanks for posting. Another article (assume the typical news-cycle self-abuse including the video) had the same thing but included this:
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The Code of Alabama, 31-9-10, Section C 2 states:

A law enforcement officer who is acting in the lawful discharge of the officer’s official duties may disarm an individual if the officer reasonably believes that it is immediately necessary for the protection of the officer or another individual. The officer shall return the firearm to the individual before discharging that individual unless the officer arrests that individual for engaging in criminal activity or seizes the firearm as evidence pursuant to an investigation for the commission of a crime or, at the discretion of the officer, the individual poses a threat to himself or herself or to others.
From here, about handguns specifically:
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“No incorporated municipality shall have the power to enact any ordinance, rule, or regulation which shall tax, restrict, prevent, or in any way affect the possession or ownership of handguns by the citizens of the state. The entire subject matter of handguns is reserved to the State Legislature. This section shall not be construed to limit or restrict the power of a municipality to adopt ordinances which make the violation of a state handgun law a violation of a municipal ordinance to the same extent as other state law violations . . . ”
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“(a) No county or municipal corporation, instrumentality, or political subdivision thereof, by ordinance, resolution, or other enactment, shall regulate in any manner gun shows, the possession, ownership, transport, carrying, transfer, sale, purchase, licensing, registration or sue of firearms, ammunition, components of firearms, firearms dealers, or dealers, or dealers in firearm components. (b)(1) Subsection (a) does not affect the authority of a municipality has under law to regulate the discharge of firearms within the limits of the municipality or the authority a county has under law enacted prior to August 1, 2000, to regulate the discharge of firearms within the jurisdiction of the county ”
Now, that's just the theory of Alabama. Will someone stand for being declared a criminal to facilitate their own criminal victimization?
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Old 02-26-2013, 20:09   #215
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Article V convention.
Indiana Senate plays the trump card.

http://www.indystar.com/article/2013...=mod%7Cmostcom

Many states may be in the mood to jump on board.
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Old 02-26-2013, 20:37   #216
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Article V convention.
Indiana Senate plays the trump card.

http://www.indystar.com/article/2013...=mod%7Cmostcom

Many states may be in the mood to jump on board.
Gotta get back to drafting the retirement papers, so will look into further. However, IIRC (and I might not) some may want to look into that a bit more before signing on. No scholar here but in an Article V convention I believe it's all on the table, not just a few things that are pissing you off to call for one. Jes' sayin'.
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Old 02-26-2013, 20:54   #217
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Gotta get back to drafting the retirement papers, so will look into further. However, IIRC (and I might not) some may want to look into that a bit more before signing on. No scholar here but in an Article V convention I believe it's all on the table, not just a few things that are pissing you off to call for one. Jes' sayin'.
Still takes 3/4 of the states to ratify any individual amendment proposed.
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Old 02-26-2013, 22:02   #218
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Article V convention.
Indiana Senate plays the trump card.

http://www.indystar.com/article/2013...=mod%7Cmostcom

Many states may be in the mood to jump on board.
Unintended consequences. I have heard that those that call for CC are sometimes bitten in the butt by their creations. Just be careful of what you wish for is all I'm saying.
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Old 03-06-2013, 15:59   #219
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Insanity from FL

http://www.foxnews.mobi/quickPage.ht...56.proteus.fma

This has to be one of the more ridiculous things I've read so far... and here I thought I was safe from dumb gun control laws when I moved down South. I'd expect this from my home state of Massachusetts, but FL?
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Old 03-06-2013, 16:24   #220
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This has to be one of the more ridiculous things I've read so far... and here I thought I was safe from dumb gun control laws when I moved down South. I'd expect this from my home state of Massachusetts, but FL?
Obama took Florida in 2008 AND 2012. You should try farther West. Don't go too far though.
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Old 03-06-2013, 18:02   #221
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This has to be one of the more ridiculous things I've read so far... and here I thought I was safe from dumb gun control laws when I moved down South. I'd expect this from my home state of Massachusetts, but FL?
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"A Florida legislator wants anyone trying to buy ammunition to complete an anger management program first, in what critics say is the latest example of local lawmakers reaching for constitutionally-dubious solutions to the problem of gun violence.

The bill filed Saturday by state Sen. Audrey Gibson, D-Jacksonville, would require a three-day waiting period for the sale of any firearm and the sale of ammunition to anyone who has not completed anger management courses. The proposal would require ammo buyers to take the anger management courses every 10 years."

I'll take a fricken anger management class to buy ammo when she takes a mandatory IQ test and mandatory common sense classes to be a legislator.
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Old 03-06-2013, 19:58   #222
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"A Florida legislator wants anyone trying to buy ammunition to complete an anger management program first, in what critics say is the latest example of local lawmakers reaching for constitutionally-dubious solutions to the problem of gun violence.

The bill filed Saturday by state Sen. Audrey Gibson, D-Jacksonville, would require a three-day waiting period for the sale of any firearm and the sale of ammunition to anyone who has not completed anger management courses. The proposal would require ammo buyers to take the anger management courses every 10 years."

I'll take a fricken anger management class to buy ammo when she takes a mandatory IQ test and mandatory common sense classes to be a legislator.
Let's just say that Audrey has an abusive boyfriend.

He beats her ass for the umpty-third time, sending her to the hospital, and she gets a restraining order.

He calls her cell phone and tells her he is coming over to kill her and her children once and for good this time.

Should she have to take an anger management class?

How many days should she have to wait before she can buy a handgun and ammunition to protect herself?

Unintended consequences, indeed.

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Old 03-06-2013, 21:26   #223
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TX- he may have won the state, but not my neck of the woods. I'm too Northern to live in Alamaba or Mississippi easily, but I've enjoyed my visits to Texas. ;-) Never been to NM, NV or AZ. CA-couldn't pay me to live there...

TR- I agree completely. Anyone who has ever been-or has known someone who has been- a victim of domestic violence knows how ASSinine her 'reasoning' is. I know I wouldn't be happy to have to submit to anger management classes just so I could protect myself from harm.

I know there are those who would say "this will never pass legislature", but how many times had that been said previously, only to be proven wrong? Honestly-kind of disturbs me it even made it to the Bill submission stage.
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Old 03-08-2013, 09:27   #224
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Would you just call this "legislating stupidity"?

Uber-libo freakout crowd has to have rules not to be absolute dolts...


But this is the people's republic....and to use the "Richardism"

And so it goes.....


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Lawmaker Introduces Bill After Pop Tart Gun Suspension
Friday, March 08, 2013
Robert Lang

The case of a second grader suspended from school because he shaped his Pop Tart like a gun is prompting legislation in Annapolis.

Baltimore and Harford County Republican Senator J.B. Jennings has introduced a bill that would bar a school from suspending a student for simply drawing a picture of a gun, molding food into the shape of a gun, or pointing their thumb and forefinger in the shape of a gun.

"I don't know what to say. I think it is ridiculous," Jennings told WBAL News in reaction to the suspension of Joshua Welch of Anne Arundel County..

Jennings says a student would still face suspension if using any of these items to attack someone or threaten someone.
Full article at WBAL
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Old 03-08-2013, 15:16   #225
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Maryland Sales and Use Tax - Ammunition

http://mgaleg.maryland.gov/webmga/fr...ect3&ys=2013RS

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HB 1277 Increasing the sales and use tax rate for ammunition to 50% of the taxable price; and distributing the revenue from the sales and use tax on ammunition to the Waiting List Equity Fund to pay for services for individuals with developmental disabilities.

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