08-26-2020, 18:28
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I’m just sick and tired of watching feckless “leaders” either elected or appointed continue to allow criminals, dirtbags, and their welfare recipient families and the live at home undergrads with a degree in social justice run the country into the ground over issues that have been solved years if not decades ago. None of this is because of Trump or racism but all of this is used to somehow hurt Trump. Trump doesn’t own the used car dealership or the family jewelry store looted and burned to the ground. Trump isn’t a member of the local VFW or Danish homestead group and he’s not a member or deciding city council member to determine use of force for the local PD. If your local PD can’t fire a bad cop fire the guy leading the department.
For the dirtbags don’t resist arrest and you are very unlikely to get shot or die. If you have spent more time of your life in prison than out of prison then make a change in life so you don’t go back...it’s pretty simple. The great majority of American citizens have figured out how to go through life with a minor moving violation and they didn’t get shot for driving any color including black.
It’s time to stop codling these misfits, arrest and detain them all...use city busses to take them to taxpayer funded stadiums and process them all for mug shots, arrest procedures and processing, hold them for 24-hours to review uploaded video accounts of their unlawful/illegal actions and take the ones that have assaulted others including the police or government property and send them to prison for between five to ten years and fine them up to $100,000 as the law may allow.
The “riff-raff’ will either learn what peaceful protest as allowed by the constitution is or they will find out.
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08-26-2020, 18:56
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#197
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Originally Posted by Old Dog New Trick
I’m just sick and tired of watching feckless “leaders” either elected or appointed continue to allow criminals, dirtbags, and their welfare recipient families and the live at home undergrads with a degree in social justice run the country into the ground over issues that have been solved years if not decades ago. None of this is because of Trump or racism but all of this is used to somehow hurt Trump. Trump doesn’t own the used car dealership or the family jewelry store looted and burned to the ground. Trump isn’t a member of the local VFW or Danish homestead group and he’s not a member or deciding city council member to determine use of force for the local PD. If your local PD can’t fire a bad cop fire the guy leading the department.
For the dirtbags don’t resist arrest and you are very unlikely to get shot or die. If you have spent more time of your life in prison than out of prison then make a change in life so you don’t go back...it’s pretty simple. The great majority of American citizens have figured out how to go through life with a minor moving violation and they didn’t get shot for driving any color including black.
It’s time to stop codling these misfits, arrest and detain them all...use city busses to take them to taxpayer funded stadiums and process them all for mug shots, arrest procedures and processing, hold them for 24-hours to review uploaded video accounts of their unlawful/illegal actions and take the ones that have assaulted others including the police or government property and send them to prison for between five to ten years and fine them up to $100,000 as the law may allow.
The “riff-raff’ will either learn what peaceful protest as allowed by the constitution is or they will find out.
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Good stuff, but in many cases I would do something OTHER than prison and a fine that'll never get paid.
They will be hauled before a court (local) and be adjudged - very publicly - "an outlaw" in the most classic sense of the term. They are someone who exists outside the umbrella of the rule of law and any/all of its protections. They are prohibited from living in any incorporated municipality, regardless of size. They have no recourse should a victim from a previous crime of theirs seek them out to exact whatever measure of justice they deem appropriate. Don't call 911, and you'll not be seen at the ER. Hit the road, disappear, because you are an outlaw. If someone should accidentally (or otherwise) run you over, your carcass will be disposed of IAW typical actions taken for roadkill, budget permitting. Then again, "buzzards gotta eat, same as worms."
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08-26-2020, 19:36
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#198
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Originally Posted by Paslode
In most cases it's not, it's intentional.
I say that because from the onset of these 'peaceful protest' by rioters, the evil doer's have been arrested only to be let back on the streets to continue their mayhem by local Democrat Mayors, City Councils and City Prosecutors....while at the same time these same tools are harassing and arresting law abiding citizens when they attempt to protect themselves, go to church and try to put food on the table.
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I agree it is intentional.
What does that make these pols ?
What does it mean when local pols restrict police from doing their job to protect life and property from anarchists and socialists ?
They have chosen sides and it is with the lawless and the subversives.
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08-26-2020, 19:47
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New video (buried way down in the news) shows what led up the first shooting.
https://apple.news/Au46xN_LmSgaehpVb5MOa3w
The kid was chased and had what may be a Molotov cocktail thrown at him as he tried to retreat to safety.
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08-26-2020, 19:52
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For those with no life...
Kenosha PD & Fire w/dispatch.
Listen here.
You may or may not have to listen to a 15-30 second commercial the first time when hitting play, that's it. Then you're just listening as if you were in town with your scanner.
Of note: Da Guv changed the curfew from 2000 last night to 1900 tonight. Also, gas stations must have their pumps shut down by 1700 and, time permitting, officers are checking to make sure that's done. Compared to metros, small town (not like mine but smaller than MKE). Out of town cops are also helping out with the workload of having out of town Commies. They are tired, but of good spirits it seems and morale seems to be alright.
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08-26-2020, 19:55
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Originally Posted by Badger52
Good stuff, but in many cases I would do something OTHER than prison and a fine that'll never get paid.
They will be hauled before a court (local) and be adjudged - very publicly - "an outlaw" in the most classic sense of the term. They are someone who exists outside the umbrella of the rule of law and any/all of its protections. They are prohibited from living in any incorporated municipality, regardless of size. They have no recourse should a victim from a previous crime of theirs seek them out to exact whatever measure of justice they deem appropriate. Don't call 911, and you'll not be seen at the ER. Hit the road, disappear, because you are an outlaw. If someone should accidentally (or otherwise) run you over, your carcass will be disposed of IAW typical actions taken for roadkill, budget permitting. Then again, "buzzards gotta eat, same as worms."
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You have something there.
No financial support, no social benefits.
No rights (to vote, hold office, possess firearms, etc...)
No burden to society>
You are an outlaw by definition.
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08-26-2020, 20:00
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Originally Posted by Old Dog New Trick
You have something there.
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So... if there's some budget left unobligated do we get to build a club, or what?
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08-26-2020, 20:02
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Originally Posted by Old Dog New Trick
New video (buried way down in the news) shows what led up the first shooting.
https://apple.news/Au46xN_LmSgaehpVb5MOa3w
The kid was chased and had what may be a Molotov cocktail thrown at him as he tried to retreat to safety.
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Good find.
Unfortunately, the truth does not matter to the left. I fear that this kid and his family will be put through hell.
Moreover, the “adults” in charge need to own up to the fact that when they hamstring our law enforcement in any way, others will fill the vacuum. We have seen this time and time again. This lack of leadership is what contributes to the actual chaos we see on the ground. It is predictable, so predictable that I fear that it must be intentional.
That dereliction and the suffering caused by these decisions is not forgivable.
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08-26-2020, 20:04
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Good find.
Unfortunately, the truth does not matter to the left. I fear that this kid and his family will be put through hell.
Moreover, the “adults” in charge need to own up to the fact that when they hamstring our law enforcement in any way, others will fill the vacuum. We have seen this time and time again. This lack of leadership is what contributes to the actual chaos we see on the ground. It is predictable, so predictable that I fear that it must be intentional.
That dereliction and the suffering caused by these decisions is not forgivable.
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BINGO!
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08-26-2020, 20:33
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Moreover, the “adults” in charge need to own up to the fact that when they hamstring our law enforcement in any way, others will fill the vacuum. We have seen this time and time again. This lack of leadership is what contributes to the actual chaos we see on the ground. It is predictable, so predictable that I fear that it must be intentional.
That dereliction and the suffering caused by these decisions is not forgivable.
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Absolutely. When a citizenry have confidence that they can trust & be protected by their police force, and that rule of law is applied properly, there is no market for a group whose goal is to undermine confidence in the government.
What you said can be extrapolated from township & municipal, all the way to Mordor on the Potomac.
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08-27-2020, 08:12
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All I know is that I'd be pissed if I got capped by an AR with a railed gas block.
The kid did good & put me on that jury. NOT GUILTY!
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08-27-2020, 09:30
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Originally Posted by tonyz
Good find.
Moreover, the “adults” in charge need to own up to the fact that when they hamstring our law enforcement in any way, others will fill the vacuum. We have seen this time and time again. This lack of leadership is what contributes to the actual chaos we see on the ground. It is predictable, so predictable that I fear that it must be intentional.
That dereliction and the suffering caused by these decisions is not forgivable.
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The problem is that there are no "adults" in charge in this socialist states/cities. Those in charge see the anarchy as a benefit not a problem...at least until the anarchy makes its way to their neighborhood.
The majority voters in those cities/states should not be appalled by what is going on...it's what they asked for.
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08-27-2020, 09:58
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We haven’t talked much about the DC diner where BLM/Antifa are harassing a woman and other as they sit outside and eat.
People need to be dialing 911 on their phones and let it record the entire event. While asking for help! Also be prepared to get up and walk away...businesses will not take kindly to losing money and customers.
I don’t know what I’d do yet but have played this over and over in my head with “what if’s”. One of those scenarios is pulling my pistol out and pointing into the face of the loudest asshole, and asking if they continue to assault me we can escalate this to self-protection of an outnumbered hostile force.
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08-27-2020, 10:22
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Somebody's comment from Utube...
"Zoomer kid of godlike precision should be put in a special unit, not in jail. He downed two attackers, cleared his jammed rifle and repelled a third attacker wielding a Glock in under seven seconds."
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08-27-2020, 10:31
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Originally Posted by Florida Patriot
All I know is that I'd be pissed if I got capped by an AR with a railed gas block. 
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That's funny; I hadn't paid attention to such details, having outfitted kid with a mid-length of mine that shoots lights out with a railed gas block.
But yeah, I'll join you on the jury. His attorney should now be ferreting ALL video from ALL sources that will support that, for each round expended, he was in reasonable fear of his life or grievous bodily harm. (includes first idiot that fatally made the mistake of engaing him with a Molotov cocktail.)
It is the others who chose poorly.
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