Rise of the Warrior Cop

[badshot]

Originally Posted by gwill034

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/...istrict-n37921

Came across this browsing around this AM. Seems like an interesting addition to the Beslan and Use it or Lose it aspects of this thread.

School Police with AR15s, necessary?

Nope...

Saw a cop directing traffic near a race track in phoenix this past weekend who was dressed like a Navy SEAL in desert camo, boonie hat and all . Ridiculous, and funny. Least he wasn't fat...would of lost it

ps. if u were the officer I was in the red gt wearing a beaver brown cowboy hat smilin' - sorry

[MR2]

From The Economist no less

Cops or soldiers?

[Streck-Fu]

Originally Posted by MR2

From The Economist no less

Cops or soldiers?

A big part of the problem is defined in these paragraphs from that linked article:

Because of a legal quirk, SWAT raids can be profitable. Rules on civil asset-forfeiture allow the police to seize anything which they can plausibly claim was the proceeds of a crime. Crucially, the property-owner need not be convicted of that crime. If the police find drugs in his house, they can take his cash and possibly the house, too. He must sue to get them back.

Many police departments now depend on forfeiture for a fat chunk of their budgets. In 1986, its first year of operation, the federal Asset Forfeiture Fund held $93.7m. By 2012, that and the related Seized Asset Deposit Fund held nearly $6 billion.

[cbtengr]

There should be strict guidelines that limit the use of SWAT teams, the following would not in my estimation be one of them.

" In fact they were looking for $1,000-worth of clothes and electronics allegedly bought with a stolen credit card. They found none of these things, but arrested two people in the house on unrelated charges."

[FlagDayNCO]

Originally Posted by Streck-Fu

A big part of the problem is defined in these paragraphs from that linked article:

The glaring symbol of this is the War on Drugs. Any Police Administrator worth his/ her weight in lead finds every reason and avenue to add equipment, man power and training to their force, by invoking the War on Drugs.

Every thing the Police Officers do is connected to a payment/ cost center. "Who is going to pay for this?", is the most frequently asked question in a Police Administration meeting.

I laugh when I see the news articles that a local town has increased patrols, with a State or Federal grant to pay the Police Officers overtime. Every Officer has to have a specialty or training in an area, beyond normal police work. When you look at a total number of personnel, the Sworn Officers, then compare that number to the actual number patrolling. Many places have less on actual patrol than assigned to special duties.

I have to guess there is no normal patrolling during regular shifts.

[Team Sergeant]

Originally Posted by Streck-Fu

A big part of the problem is defined in these paragraphs from that linked article:

Exactly why many pot growers grow weed on "federal" land.

And for the record I take offense to calling police "warriors". As someone already said "Armed Social Workers" is a better definition.....

[mugwump]

Because of a legal quirk, SWAT raids can be profitable. Rules on civil asset-forfeiture allow the police to seize anything which they can plausibly claim was the proceeds of a crime. Crucially, the property-owner need not be convicted of that crime. If the police find drugs in his house, they can take his cash and possibly the house, too. He must sue to get them back.

Many police departments now depend on forfeiture for a fat chunk of their budgets. In 1986, its first year of operation, the federal Asset Forfeiture Fund held $93.7m. By 2012, that and the related Seized Asset Deposit Fund held nearly $6 billion.

I was channel flipping and came across one of those reality cop shows featuring the Tampa police. They'd set up a sting selling tiny amounts of pot--1/16 to 1/8 of an ounce--in a drive-up setting. The gloating directed at the stingees was sickening. "You just made the last payment, har-dee-har? Well your car is ours now." "But I'll lose my job."

Rich guys get it delivered like pizza, poor guys lose their cars.

[Sdiver]

Anyone who says that we are NOT living in a "Police State", are living themselves living in a fool's paradise.

Here's a link (with video) of ABQ police shooting and killing a homeless man who was "camping illegally."

http://readychimp.com/2014/03/24/hor...ps-murder-him/

A recent study shows, that people are more afraid of being killed by the police, than they are of being killed by, or in, a terrorist action.

[fng13]

Originally Posted by Sdiver

Anyone who says that we are NOT living in a "Police State", are living themselves living in a fool's paradise.

Here's a link (with video) of ABQ police shooting and killing a homeless man who was "camping illegally."

http://readychimp.com/2014/03/24/hor...ps-murder-him/

A recent study shows, that people are more afraid of being killed by the police, than they are of being killed by, or in, a terrorist action.

Why even bother hauling the LTL shotguns up the hill? I guess they make it more convenient to check a corpse than by poking it with a stick.

[Streck-Fu]

Originally Posted by MAB32

The reason we had to look was a huge mistake made by the LAPD many years ago. From what we were told was that the LAPD went in to bang a house. They tossed flashbangs into every open window, including a second floor window. That flashbang had landed in a baby's crib with a few months old baby in it. The baby was killed instantly. With Law Enforcement work, when I was into it, everything seemed to go from west coast to east coast including all of the bad things done by both good and bad.

Unfortunately, not all agencies are learning from the operational scars of others. And add another SWAT raid for suspected meth lab that results in no arrests or evidence.

LINK

Grenade burns sleeping girl as SWAT team raids Billings home

A 12-year-old girl suffered burns to one side of her body when a flash grenade went off next to her as a police SWAT team raided a West End home Tuesday morning.
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A SWAT member attached it to a boomstick, a metal pole that detonates the grenade, and stuck it through the bedroom window. St. John said the grenade normally stays on the boomstick so it goes off in a controlled manner at a higher level.

However, the officer didn't realize that there was a delay on the grenade when he tried to detonate it. He dropped it to move onto a new device, St. John said. The grenade fell to the floor and went off near the girl.

"It was totally unforeseen, totally unplanned and extremely regrettable," St. John said. "We certainly did not want a juvenile, or anyone else for that matter, to get injured."
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A SWAT member attached it to a boomstick, a metal pole that detonates the grenade, and stuck it through the bedroom window. St. John said the grenade normally stays on the boomstick so it goes off in a controlled manner at a higher level.

However, the officer didn't realize that there was a delay on the grenade when he tried to detonate it. He dropped it to move onto a new device, St. John said. The grenade fell to the floor and went off near the girl.

"It was totally unforeseen, totally unplanned and extremely regrettable," St. John said. "We certainly did not want a juvenile, or anyone else for that matter, to get injured."
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No arrests were made during the raid and no charges have been filed, although a police spokesman said afterward that some evidence was recovered during the search. St. John declined to release specifics of the drug case, citing the active investigation, but did say that "activity was significant enough where our drug unit requested a search warrant."

[ddoering]

And now to fabricate enough evidence to avoid a law suit......

[Stobey]

This is really beginning to get old - and infuriating! Yet another "incident" with a cop behaving badly. WTF?? What's wrong with these idiots? It seems like this is happening on a weekly basis somewhere in the USSofA.

He Cooperated with the Cops -- and is Paying the Price: The Ordeal of Mark Byrge

http://www.freedominourtime.blogspot...is-paying.html

[cbtengr]

"Grenade burns sleeping girl as SWAT team raids Billings home..."

Their intel and their training both suck.

[Damocles]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QL-1...s_digest-vrecs

[badshot]

Originally Posted by FlagDayNCO

The glaring symbol of this is the War on Drugs. Any Police Administrator worth his/ her weight in lead finds every reason and avenue to add equipment, man power and training to their force, by invoking the War on Drugs.

That's the only reason they keep the losing 'War' going...unless of course they missed their American History class - all of them!

It is also possible they are just plain insane as defined by Einstein. Most PC Clinical folks today would put it under the extremely low IQ group...