William G. Hillar Special Forces FRAUD

[x SF med]

Originally Posted by Uncertain

Just like the title says, I am a personal friend of Bill. Please put your weapons down. I have known Bill for over 7 years. This all comes as a shock as well as a heart-ache. Since I’ve known him he has eluded to a military past. When I visited his home, there were no awards, decorations, plaques or any other sign he served. However, I never inquired further. This was because I was more interested in the man he was, not his military achievements. I understand the anger expressed in this forum because the sacrifice made to earn the title of any Special Forces program is extensive, to say the least.

I would like to describe the Bill I know. It may appear I am defending him, but that is not my job. He will be responsible for that. The reason I am willing to describe him is because he was not one of those people who made it a point to boast or push his military (or non) accomplishments in social settings. He rarely spoke about it (now I know why). He primarily spent his time helping people and causes. He made people feel good about themselves and was always the first to extend a helping hand. He always had a kind word and rarely did he ever say something negative about someone. He always took time to listen to someone, which is truly rare these days. This is what makes it so hard to swallow what has occurred.

Unfortunately, what has happened here is not unique. I knew of a Green Beret who placed a "Ranger" tab on his uniform when he didn't even attend the course. He got caught. What would posses this person to do this? There was a point in my career where I was surrounded by a lot of people pumping up their resumes. For example, telling us all how bad "it was" in Iraq. Or claiming they were an employee of the NSA, CIA…etc. At the time, I didn’t know better. Later I found out these same people never left the confines of the Mega-Walled US Embassy in Baghdad. Or that they weren’t actual employees of NSA or CIA, but college interns or contractors who worked on projects which were used by one of these agencies. It seems stretching (or fabricating) accomplishments is business as usual.

I had the fortune of getting called-out early in my career. When I was in the service, I eluded that I completed a course. As fate would have it, a friend of mine did attend it. He started finding holes in my story and called me out. I was embarrassed, really embarrassed. Fortunately, he was sympathetic. He then relayed a story how the same had happened to him. At that point, I realized I didn't need to make shit up to be more important. Furthermore, I started telling others that I didn’t care what they did, I was more interested if they could do the job they were hired to accomplish.

With respect to whether he had the qualifications to teach the courses he offered; let’s be real. For anyone who serves or works for the DOD, we know that anyone can earn a certificate in any of these. The DOD has 2 hour on-line training courses in Counter Terrorism. Who of us who didn’t go to Iraq receive the “Global War on Terrorism Expeditionary Medal?” As for anything Bill instructed at universities, it was all academic or from a policy perspective.

I don’t know what is going to happen to Bill, but if anyone wanted a real challenge (ie get out of this hole), this would be it. I hope that if everything that is on this forum is true, he will come clean. Before you bash me for my comments, keep in mind I’m trying to process what has happened to someone who is a good friend. If I ever re-establish contact with him, rest assured, I’ll ask him why. And I’ll tell him that he would have been the same friend if he was nothing more than a civilian.

Apologies for a person with no honor, integrity in the negative numbers, and a penchant for lies to make von Munchhausen ashamed only reduce you as a person. I suggest you stop while you are behind, hide, and let the angry mob sweep by you unnoticed. When said angy mob is gone - run the other direction so as to place as much distance between yourself and Mr. Hillar as possible. This will reduce the shrapnel wounds, pressure injuries, and other collateral damage of being in the vicinity of Mr. Hillar when the artillery strikes and/or he implodes spontaneously from the vacuum in his soul.

[Uncertain]

If I violated the rules, I'm ready to eat crow. I thought the response fell within the guidelines.

Comply with the instructions at the following link - http://www.professionalsoldiers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3452 Richard

No, I am not Bill.

It just sucks that it was one lie on top of another. Each bigger and worse. Yes, I am keenly interested in talking to him and up to a few weeks ago, I probably could have. But, poof, he's disappeared.

I want to reiterate, I am not defending him. I want to provide a perspective from another one of his victims; me. I also wanted to reassure everyone out there that the universitiy courses he taught were NOT strategic in nature. The information he provided was publicly available. Because I have no information on the training he provided to Fed/Gov agencies, I did not comment on this. However, as this info gets out, I'm sure someone who worked with him can address that concern.

I only came across this 2 days ago. Emailed from another one of his victims.

[Pete]

Originally Posted by Uncertain

If I violated the rules, I'm ready to eat crow. I thought the response fell within the guidelines...............

From the Bulletin Board Rules

3. Introduce yourself with your first post. Here!

This was now your second Post. You are fixin' to get the FTFSI under your user name.

[nousdefions]

Uncertain,

Stopping Human Trafficking is a noble cause, but don't you see that he has also brought shame and disreput to that cause, by lying about his background and accomplishments. He has defrauded two universities and numerous Federal, state, and local agencies of Tax dollars to perpertate his hoax. Think of all the lives he has endangered with his lies. If you want to feel sorry for someone, try his daughter in NC who is still alive.

Team Sergeant -- That fraudulent POS doesn't deserve the honor of cleaning a real warrior's bedpan......

[JJ_BPK]

Originally Posted by Uncertain

If I violated the rules, I'm ready to eat crow.

After you fill out your profile and post an introduction..

You can help us all understand hillar's story about his daughter.

The claim of her abduction and death in the SEA Sex Trade and the repeated re-telling of this tale as the basis for the movie, has me, if not all of us perplexed.

Is his family as unaware and uninformed as the rest of the individuals that he has scammed??

Or do they also play active rolls in his fictitious life??

[Uncertain]

First, filled in my intro. Let me know if it's enough info.

Second, I thought I was prepared for the responses but I feel like I've been run over by a tank, with cleats, on a paved street.

I was in one of his classes when he told the story about his daughter, pre 2006. I can assure you that most, if not all, of the students in the class had no idea of his (purported ) background. He has that Tony Roberts capability to get a crowds attention. If someone told you that story (kidnapped daughter), how would you call someone out on this? The story was so incredible I was just shocked. I became friends with him because of his personality. I never once saw his military creds, didn't feel it was necessary. Also, the contacts he had were quite incredible.

I can assure you that some of the people who are closest to him were not aware that he was living this life. How can I be so sure? A family member emailed me the link to this forum.

I'm still realing from this, but I will be putting my investigator hat on. I need to reach out to some people who are close to him.

More to come.

[GratefulCitizen]

Originally Posted by Uncertain

He has that Tony Roberts capability to get a crowds attention.

Charisma and character are not the same thing, nor are they substitutes for one another.
This man is an object lesson on that distinction.

[MuchThanksOwed]

Uncertain... I am not a military person, so I am not going to fight battles with you that aren't mine. I am shocked however that you would make posts in any way defending Bill's actions in this forum. Have you even given a thought to how that further minimizes the great service of true special forces?

I get what you are saying - Why would you challenge someone with that story, etc. etc. But you have either forgotton much or don't know the half of it. I guess what I'm saying is, I don't know you, but I know "wisdom" is not your strong suit.

This man has been paid, prayed for, honored, served, and looked up to by victims of some of the most deplorable criminal circumstances performed by human beings... what in your right mind would possess you to think any comment of "be gentle" is rightly placed PRIOR to this man making his own sin made known by his own actions?

He did boast about his false military career... everytime he accepted the announcment as Col., and with every community award given to him as a hero.

You need to put it all into perspective - which you have failed to do thus far.

My personal gripe with the man is his profession of Christianity. Is this what he has chosen as "fruitful works" with the "new life" he found in Christ?
That's not a testimony - it's a crying shame! He's taken the role on more than one ocassion as a spiritual leader to other Godly men. If it wasn't for this fact I'd shut my mouth and let him be devoured by the enemies he's put his own hand to making.

He comes public and repents I'll be in line to help him find God along with some personal level of restoration... until that time he has done nothing but to glorify his own flesh for worldly reward and at the great cost of others. He is the same kind of person who contributes to human trafficking and the wake of disaster behind him will probably do far more to hinder the fighting efforts against this global crime.

[gundog]

Uncertain,

While you are in the investigation mode you may want to pass on to anyone who is in contact with "billyboy" that we ALL await his response to "Team Sergeant".

I can't speak for others on this site but, personally, I am sure he will be cleared "HOT" to say what ever he wants to say in his own defense.

Did you miss the post of his Military Records? Do you not understand that by his actions, "billyboy" has dishonored our killed in action, wounded in action brothers, our traditions, our heritage and our lineage. There is an avitar on this site with a picture of a Green Beret (the hat for the uninitiated), with the phrase "Pick it up, We Dare You". That says it all, except, if you pick it up and haven't earned it, you better give it back to the guy who did straight away.

"billyboy" is a Fraud and a duper of others. He has duped you along with uncounted others. His time of "posing" is over. He has earned money from the reputation of much better men than himself. For his self instigated fraudulent activites, I personally hope he loses all of his ill gotten gains and much more.

[RB208]

It looks like Bill finally took the SF claim off of his training site…guess what else he took off…All of his academic credentials. Guess they all were shams. Why didn’t he just take the site down all together? Does he think he’s going to be able to squeeze in another class or two before going to jail? Oh, and Bill, just in case you thought you were safe by removing those credentials, and thought you could say “I never had that on my site”…well below is a pdf file that a friend of mine made back when we first discovered you were full of it. It has your site with all the false claims, and it’s dated.

[Uncertain]

Keep it coming, it's sinking in. I just got off the phone with a friend who also knew Bill. He pretty much told me what all of you have been saying. You are right, my first reaction was to defend him. I was trying to focus on the positive things he did, but your point on how he damaged the very foundations he was working for, really hit home.

One of the really stange things is that he never said anything to me about receiving accolades, awards, or recognition from any institution or office. I was unaware of this and the walls in his home had non of this.

Originally Posted by MuchThanksOwed

Uncertain... I am not a military person, so I am not going to fight battles with you that aren't mine. I am shocked however that you would make posts in any way defending Bill's actions in this forum. Have you even given a thought to how that further minimizes the great service of true special forces?

I get what you are saying - Why would you challenge someone with that story, etc. etc. But you have either forgotton much or don't know the half of it. I guess what I'm saying is, I don't know you, but I know "wisdom" is not your strong suit.

This man has been paid, prayed for, honored, served, and looked up to by victims of some of the most deplorable criminal circumstances performed by human beings... what in your right mind would possess you to think any comment of "be gentle" is rightly placed PRIOR to this man making his own sin made known by his own actions?

He did boast about his false military career... everytime he accepted the announcment as Col., and with every community award given to him as a hero.

You need to put it all into perspective - which you have failed to do thus far.

My personal gripe with the man is his profession of Christianity. Is this what he has chosen as "fruitful works" with the "new life" he found in Christ?
That's not a testimony - it's a crying shame! He's taken the role on more than one ocassion as a spiritual leader to other Godly men. If it wasn't for this fact I'd shut my own mouth and let him be devoured by the enemies he's made put his own hand to making for himself.

He comes public and repents I'll be in line to help him repent, find God, and get right... until that time he has done nothing but to glorify his own flesh for worldly reward and at the great cost of others. He is the same kind of person who contributes to human trafficking and the wake of disaster behind him will probably do far to hinder such a global crime than fight it.

[Pete]

Originally Posted by Uncertain

.........One of the really stange things is that he never said anything to me about receiving accolades, awards, or recognition from any institution or office. I was unaware of this and the walls in his home had non of this.

Maybe because you were too close. As is becoming clear the family knew that he was none of what he stated. Maybe a little hard to brag around folks that knew the truth.

Which leads to the second question since the family knew the truth about him. Did the family know about his scam and say nothing - or were they in the dark about what he was doing? Did he hide what he was doing from the family and they just not notice it?

As of right now this still lists the SF COL bit

http://www.zoominfo.com/search#searc...rgetid=profile

[djm0039]

I have been a humble guest on this site for almost 2 years and have made a total of 4 posts as I rarely feel that I can provide insight to a matter being discussed and would rather just enjoy the access to the knowledge presented on these forums. However, in this matter I have become so disgusted that I feel the need to post.

How is it that someone that has a daughter can go around and give PAID speeches to college-aged females about the dangers of human trafficking and how to avoid being a victim? How can you look in the mirror knowing that you have placed the safety and well-being of others in jeopardy because of your own feelings of inadequacy? I hope you know that somewhere along the line someone was physically victimized because of your lies. While the public humiliation you are experiencing now is likely painful now, I hope the burden you carry for the lies you purported provides you misery for the rest of your life. Being a father of great little girl I hope that justice is served suddenly with a heavy hand.

My questions are somewhat rhetorical, but if Bill happens to wish to respond that would be fine as well.

[RB208]

Here is a video of Bill on a Christian radioshow. Just when you think it can't get lower. Oh, and in most cases his statistics don't match those of the state department...wonder if he just made them up on the spot.

http://www.123people.com/ext/frm?ti=...ideo&wrt_id=68

[rdret1]

Originally Posted by RB208

It looks like Bill finally took the SF claim off of his training site…guess what else he took off…All of his academic credentials. Guess they all were shams. Why didn’t he just take the site down all together? Does he think he’s going to be able to squeeze in another class or two before going to jail? Oh, and Bill, just in case you thought you were safe by removing those credentials, and thought you could say “I never had that on my site”…well below is a pdf file that a friend of mine made back when we first discovered you were full of it. It has your site with all the false claims, and it’s dated.

The new version is not NEARLY as impressive.

Uncertain, would you happen to know of his daughter? Besides the "SF Col" affront, what really angered a lot of us who have daughters is the statements of his attempted rescue of his own and that the movie "Taken" was based off of that. He never mentioned her name in any material. If something like that had actually happened to my family and I were giving presentations where I used that experience as a means of establishing a bona fides, I would have her pictures and her name prominently displayed every time. I would make sure everyone knew who she was and the things she had done in life and how much she meant to me. The fact that he did none of these things and people took what he said at face value is strange to say the least. Did no one ask about these events after the presentations?