09-07-2007, 22:31
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I want to hear Fred or any of the GOP candidates come out and say something about Chuck Schumer's speech in the Senate Wednesday.
If anyone hasn't heard his speech you can listen to it here:
http://www.townhall.com/blog/g/77423...3-ce190f316648
Last edited by pegasus; 09-07-2007 at 23:28.
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09-08-2007, 09:12
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Oh I heard it, made me ill.
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09-09-2007, 07:06
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I've had some cases involving Romney's firm. Trust me when I tell you -- the dude knows how to make tons of money really fast. The firm is freakin brilliant. I often buy stock right after they do.
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I'm going to tell the SEC and STOCKWATCH, unless you start sharing your inside information. 
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09-09-2007, 08:53
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I'm going to tell the SEC and STOCKWATCH, unless you start sharing your inside information. |
LOL, read the Wall Street Journal and pay attention to Bain Capital.
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09-09-2007, 08:59
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LOL, read the Wall Street Journal and pay attention to Bain Capital.
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I quit reading that rag a while ago. And yes, I'm familiar with Bain Capital. I believe they used to be Trust Company of the West ? Henry Kissinger was on their board of directors.
Anyway, are you still stuck on Guiliani ?
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09-10-2007, 11:56
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I like Fred
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Did anyone else think this was a bad move on the night of the Republican Debate? Seems he would want to distance himself from Hollywood. But he appears on Leno instead of debating.
Of course I wouldn't want to be seen on the same stage or associated in any way with the other Rep runners.
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After joking that it was harder to get on The Tonight Show instead of a Presidential debate in this early stage of the campaign...Fred's response to this exact question was along the lines of the debates being more of a chance for media to get sound bytes of candidates making fun of each other when asked about issues affecting Americans. These debates really do little to let the people of the United States know what direction their future leader is willing to point the nation.
Further, he said he would welcome the opportunity to sit down with any other candidate, one on one, and take a couple of hours to discuss (and debate) views on a single issue. More than a sound byte, more than a 30 second blip.
I thought it was a smart answer.
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09-10-2007, 11:58
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It is much better to be on The Tonight Show rather than participate in a debate. In the debate, he's one of a bunch of candidates. On The Tonight Show, he gets more exposure and looks like he is above the fray and ahead of the pack.
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09-10-2007, 12:28
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Further, he said he would welcome the opportunity to sit down with any other candidate, one on one, and take a couple of hours to discuss (and debate) views on a single issue. More than a sound byte, more than a 30 second blip.
I thought it was a smart answer.
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It is and Huckabee has already offered to take him up on it.
I would welcome the opportunity to see that.
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09-10-2007, 13:12
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Yeah, well look at Warren Buffet. Absolutely brilliant investor, resulted in him getting $40 billion dollars. Yet, he thinks Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama would make excellent candidates for President (!?!).
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From experience I dont know if I'd call him brilliant. He is conservative and patient with his investments. Two traits most stock investors lack. George Soro's is also somtimes referred to as brilliant but he's an absolute moron, politically speaking. He's throwing money at Hillary, the capitalist hater, and tax spender to beat all !! 
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09-12-2007, 12:43
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Back on topic, hey RL, have you seen the latest poll numbers?
Mostly since Fred announced?
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...ation-192.html
Looking pretty good for the first week. I hope the fundraising matches it.
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09-12-2007, 13:47
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Yes, I have. He needs to raise a lot more money to win. I have not committed to a candidate yet.
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09-12-2007, 13:59
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Giuliani should be starting to worry and sweat a little.....
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09-12-2007, 18:36
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Yes, I have. He needs to raise a lot more money to win. I have not committed to a candidate yet.
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Putting the money issue into perspetive; Thompson has spent less than $1 million in his "exploratory efforts", while Mitt Romney has spent a whopping $32 million over the same amount of time. Giuliani has spent $17 million since the beginning of his campaign. In my estimation Thompson got the biggest bang for his buck.
Going forward; Romney has $4 million on hand while Giuliani has $17 million on hand and McCain $21 million on hand. Last figures I saw Thompson had raised $3.5 million. In reality he is in the same ballpark as Romney currently as far as treasury goes, and not an insurmountable amount behind Giuliani. There are going to be some donors that will be switching affiliation with the current poll numbers, bolstered by Thompson's actual entering of the race.
In my humble opinion money is not nearly as important in this very unorthodox game plan of Thompson's. His poll numbers are higher than two of the top tier candidates and he did it all with no money.
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09-23-2007, 19:23
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Not exactly a surprise, but it seems like Fred came out on top of all the GOP candidates who spoke to the NRA.
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09-23-2007, 20:06
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Not exactly a surprise, but it seems like Fred came out on top of all the GOP candidates who spoke to the NRA.
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From what I've read, it's probably because he's the only one who flat out said he would uphold the 2nd Amendment to it's intended purpose.
That and he said (paraphrasing) owning a firearm is a God given right, not a government given right. 
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