05-22-2025, 09:54
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‘Biggest Second Amendment victory in my lifetime is one step closer to happening.’
https://bearingarms.com/tomknighton/...-bill-n1228679
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05-22-2025, 19:48
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Looking at the bill text I posted before this, I hope the Senate tweaks things to get it completely de-listed from ANYthing rather than just making the 'tax' zero. It should be a bubble-pak item hanging next to the Outers cleaning kits and the Hoppe's #9.
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05-24-2025, 10:27
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DOJ appears to be throwing the case (in favor of the 2nd Amendment).
Unsure how judges deal with something like this.
https://assets.nationbuilder.com/fir...pdf?1748040757
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05-24-2025, 11:05
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Wow, it would be nice to see the Peterson case go in favor of freedom. Then the statement "In the view of the United States, the Second Amendment protects firearm accessories and components..." would be a great precedent to overturn the craziness coming out of the Colorado legislature lately (i.e., requiring 'special' training for semi-autos that take magazines, and the 15 round magazine cap).
As happy as I am to see the suppressor issue moving forward, I'm still not a fan of the giant omnibus bills with a bunch of unrelated issues moving through Congress. I'd much prefer to see bills with a single issue or at least several closely related issues, primarily so both Congress and the public know what's actually being addressed by the bills.
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06-05-2025, 08:52
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SCOTUS slaps down lawfare against gun manufacturers:
https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinion...-1141_lkgn.pdf
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06-05-2025, 09:05
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Our shitty substandard unethical immoral elected representatives are the single best defense of legislation like this...
Legal precedence is legal precedence and the second a manufacturer can be held legally accountable for bad people doing bad things with their products - the family of Mary Jo Kopechne should be encouraged to sue the shit out of General Motors - straight into the poor house for those mother fuckers...
...for allowing Ted Kennedy to operate an Oldsmobile.
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06-14-2025, 11:29
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Feds file amicus brief in assault weapon/magazine ban case:
https://www.justice.gov/opa/media/1403731/dl?inline
The federal government has firmly established itself as pro-2A.
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06-14-2025, 16:29
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'Bout bloody time. Long hiatus.
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07-06-2025, 18:17
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07-07-2025, 05:15
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Excellent. Thanks.
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07-07-2025, 08:14
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good to hear - we only have a couple years to roll back decades of tyranny before the domocrats work their way back in and start fucking things up again
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07-07-2025, 10:02
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If this is successful and the registration requirements are enjoined then the table is set for elimination of the remainder of the NFA.
Eliminate the tax = eliminate the registry.
Murdock v. Pennsylvania should be able to kill the remaining taxes.
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07-07-2025, 19:18
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Murdock v. Pennsylvania
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I'd love to hear those words come out of one of the SCOTUS jurist's mouth.
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07-08-2025, 17:10
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Sheriff refuses to return guns.
6th circuit rules that 2nd Amendment right of people to “keep” arms applies and requires application of Bruen methodology.
https://www.opn.ca6.uscourts.gov/opi...5a0162p-06.pdf
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07-09-2025, 07:56
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If this is successful and the registration requirements are enjoined then the table is set for elimination of the remainder of the NFA.
Eliminate the tax = eliminate the registry.
Murdock v. Pennsylvania should be able to kill the remaining taxes.
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The biggest issue I can see with the “Zero Tax” on these NFA items is that congress didn’t eliminate the tax, they set it to zero. The courts will likely say something along the lines of “there is still a tax, even if it’s ’zero dollars’ so the NFA restrictions WRT ownership and registration are still valid IAW the tax-powers”……
I wish it was different, but this is how I see this turning out.
ETA: My biggest concern is now that the seal has been broken on the almost century’s old $200 stamp, and the spotlight brought on this nominal amount in current dollars, when (not if) the left regains control of the leavers of power, they can / will set the tax to ~$5,000 (the approximate inflation corrected number from 1934 to 2025) or more……
ALL gun laws are infringements, including taxing the right to keep (own) and bear (carry) arms (guns, knives, swords). ATF should be a convenience store on every major intersection, not a government agency!
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