12-01-2006, 20:34
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Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Olympia Washington
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Thank you for the constructive criticism.
I understand my limitations and I do not believe that my hearing would affect my ability to adapt to my surroundings. I know that this sounds like some one who just wants to make excuses, but I am not one to excuse my self, only prove my self. If I were to have a conversation with you any where any time, I doubt that you would be able to tell I had a hearing problem. I'm not saying that I don't have a slight disability, but I cope with it very well. Hay and on the bright side, how many of you guys can read lips very well? 
Background: From what I was told by my doc, I lost my hearing when I was 8, got really sick and it boiled my inner ear fluid and damaged the hammer and anvil(sorry don't know correct wording) This was only in my left ear. I am 110% in my right. I am 65-70% deaf in my left ear now. I don't know if this makes a lick of difference to any one at MEPS, but I would love to have a chance to do my best and prove it.
I would never knowingly under any circumstances put team mates in danger. If told no I would keep trying. Expect the worst hope for the best. Again I thank you for having me here.
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12-01-2006, 21:01
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Originally Posted by dirtytoy
Thank you for the constructive criticism.
I understand my limitations and I do not believe that my hearing would affect my ability to adapt to my surroundings. I know that this sounds like some one who just wants to make excuses, but I am not one to excuse my self, only prove my self. If I were to have a conversation with you any where any time, I doubt that you would be able to tell I had a hearing problem. I'm not saying that I don't have a slight disability, but I cope with it very well. Hay and on the bright side, how many of you guys can read lips very well?
Background: From what I was told by my doc, I lost my hearing when I was 8, got really sick and it boiled my inner ear fluid and damaged the hammer and anvil(sorry don't know correct wording) This was only in my left ear. I am 110% in my right. I am 65-70% deaf in my left ear now. I don't know if this makes a lick of difference to any one at MEPS, but I would love to have a chance to do my best and prove it.
I would never knowingly under any circumstances put team mates in danger. If told no I would keep trying. Expect the worst hope for the best. Again I thank you for having me here. |
You don't seem to be getting it.
It isn't about you, it is about the team. What do you have to offer them? How would you feel if six or eight of your best friends were counting on you to hear the enemy approaching, and were all killed because you missed it?
If you were facing away from them, it would be very hard for you to detect someone coming up behind you on your left side. In the field, you need all of your senses to be at their peak at all times to stay alive. Without good hearing, we cannot go to sleep and have you on OP/LP, security, or radio watch. We cannot guarantee that you will always be getting instructions through your good ear. We frequently have to be very quiet and be ready to react to very slight noises. You would always be deficient at that. Someone would constantly have to be covering for you. You would be a drag on the team. That is the reason there is a standard requiring SF applicants to have a PULHES of 111111. That means both ears have to work properly. There is no room on an ODA for a deaf guy, a blind guy, a one-armed guy, or one who is mentally challenged. We have no short bus and the ADA does not apply.
If you read the stickies, you will see where I direct people to go read the medical requirements for themselves. Your degree of hearing loss, regardless of cause, is a disqualifier for SF service, and is one that I would not consider waiverable, regardless of what some recruiter may say to get you to enlist.
You are probably a great guy. Why not check to see what career options may be open to you in the Army, or the other services, and select one, if it is appealing to you? You are not going to get into SF, IMHO, and for good reason.
Good luck.
TR
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12-01-2006, 21:24
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Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Olympia Washington
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Thank you for responding to my post, I was hoping you would. You seem to know your stuff and I am honored to take your advice and do what I can with the information you have given me.
Unfortunately I am rather obstinate and will try any how with a smile on my face because I love to be told I cant do something. Makes it all that much better to respectfully prove some one wrong.
I have been hunting for years and have never ran accost a time when I was unsuccessful because of my hearing. I have brought in some nice old bucks, and they don't get that way by being stupid. I understand that hunting is no where close to combat, and I will be vigilant in pursing my goals and over coming my limitations. Thank you again Sir.
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12-01-2006, 21:25
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Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Cincinnati, OH
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Hello
Hello gentelman, Thank you for allowing me in your presence. My name is Jared and I am 27 years old. I am looking into joining the Army with the hopes of being able to get in to SF. I look forward to being able to learn from all of you.
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12-02-2006, 05:11
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Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Finland
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Introductio
Hello,
Everybody call me Kurt. 44 yrs young, from Finland.
Former Finnish Ranger ( RECON ) Ssgt, served in Lebanon -82-86, S-W Africa -89-90.
Did some training ( CT ) in Ft. Bragg -01 with members from SF 3rd Battalion 3rd Group. Any body there, it is I, KURT?
Last 6 yrs working with Cruise Ship Security.
Will be in New Orleans starting from Dec. 10, Ship's name is Norwegian Sun, come by for lunch, it is on me!
you all take care,
KURT
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12-02-2006, 06:33
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Location: Vermont
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Originally Posted by dirtytoy
I have been hunting for years and have never ran accost a time when I was unsuccessful because of my hearing. .
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Your hearing right now, while a disqualifier for SF based on what you are describing, is not your problem: listening is. Being obstinate is a whole lot different than being focused and persistent on goals that for you are attainable. If your hearing is as you identify it by the medical reports you are not going to even get a chance to try for SF-much less the military. Do yourself a favor and listen to those that are trying to help you accept your limitations and focus on something that is going to make you happy and productive.
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12-02-2006, 10:39
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Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: East Coast
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Introduction
All,
Recently ETSed from Active Duty and am presently considering serving in the NG (specifically 19th GRP MID in WV). I really appreciate all of the advice and redirection you provide individuals on this board. It is both invaluable and entertaining.
Thank you
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12-02-2006, 11:00
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Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Wrightsville Beach, NC
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Introduction
Greetings all. My name is Jeff Bennett and I have been soaking up the sage advice from this board for a few months now. I appreciate the respect shown to me as a guest in your community and I hope at some point I can prove helpful. I served in the USMC for 12 years and I am still in the IRR. I am considering a move to the 20th NG SFG and I have found the feedback in this forum both informative and motivating.
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12-02-2006, 14:39
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Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Alexandria VA
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My intro.
Hello,
Thanks for the opportunity to be apart of this forum. I am an active Army E-5 74D in Washington D.C. This site has alot of helpful information that is only available here and i look forward to learning from all of you.
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12-02-2006, 21:52
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Fullerton, CA
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Originally Posted by Jack Moroney
Your hearing right now, while a disqualifier for SF based on what you are describing, is not your problem: listening is. Being obstinate is a whole lot different than being focused and persistent on goals that for you are attainable. If your hearing is as you identify it by the medical reports you are not going to even get a chance to try for SF-much less the military. Do yourself a favor and listen to those that are trying to help you accept your limitations and focus on something that is going to make you happy and productive.
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I love reading your posts. You are a pillar of common sense.
JMO,
Marc
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12-03-2006, 02:44
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Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Free Pennsylvania
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Introduction
Member of Professional Soldiers,
I am a student currently in the application process for medical school. In addition to several civilian schools I am applying to USUHS. I nearly postponed applying to medical school to serve for several years. However, I have realized opportunties to begin a career of service in medicine and have chosen that route. In addition to practicing medicine I have a strong desire to contribute to our nation's security either through military service or opportunties at home in the expanding field of tactical medicine. Over the past year I have been familiarizing myself with as much information as possible on operational and tactical medicine, fields I would love to become involved in and make contributions to. I joined this forum to learn as much as possible about medicine in bad places and would like to thank you for the opportunity to participate.
Respectfully,
Patriot
Edit: I moved this to the proper location. Attention to detail. Kyo
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12-03-2006, 05:23
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You need to buy beer now 
did your look at the top and read the sticky?
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12-03-2006, 12:24
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Join Date: Nov 2006
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Hey everyone,
Thanks for letting me on.I'm currently on deployment in Kosovo with the NG.I've been looking at this site for couple of months taking in all the info.I only been in the NG for a year and been active for most of it.I was going to go in on a rep 63 contract. I decided to go 11b so I wouldn't be away from my wife and son too long.Here I am now on a 18 month deployment.I sure regret that decision.I have the 19th and the 20th near me and planning to try out when I get back or go active.
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12-03-2006, 13:20
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Iceberg, if I were you I would go back and edit your post and then do a little research using the search button on this site. Your question is insulting.
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12-03-2006, 13:32
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Originally Posted by iceberg
Hey everyone,
Thanks for letting me on.I'm currently on deployment in Kosovo with the NG.I've been looking at this site for couple of months taking in all the info.I only been in the NG for a year and been active for most of it.I was going to go in on a rep 63 contract. I decided to go 11b so I wouldn't be away from my wife and son too long.Here I am now on a 18 month deployment.I sure regret that decision.I have the 19th and the 20th near me and planning to try out when iget back or go active.Not for nothing, the NG is jacked up!I mean no disrespect but is the SF in the NG jacked up too?
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Iceberg:
Fill in your profile and do as Kyo recommended. There are a lot of good NG SF personnel on here, and your question is offensive.
TR
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