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There is a new article up on the Gateway Pundit about the on going events in Portland. The article is about ANTIFA engaging group of men wearing t-shirts that read Freedom Fighter and American Wolf and the left the area in a limo.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/202...oot-every-one/
Who is American Wolf?
It's a organization run by one Peter Diaz, the website url is www.americanwolf689.org.
The websites introduction has a lot of words freedom loving American love to hear bit also states that "When the public EXECUTION of George Floyd in Minneapolis occurred WE were pushed to the brink".
Donations made on the American Wolf website are made to the "AMERICAN PROGRESSIVE CONSTITUTIONALIST PARTY AMERICAN WOLF"......the donations are used to " Working to put common sense LEADERS into positions of policy making.
Good guy or just another arm of the left?
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08-16-2020, 14:56
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American Wolf ???
Who is Peter Diaz ? His Bio is very busy with traveling & reading... Someone needs to capture an American wolf & determine if "The strength of the wolf is in the pack or is the strength the pack in the wolf" ???? catch & release, capture, interrogation and return to the wilderness....
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08-17-2020, 12:17
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Good guy or just another arm of the left?
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My sense is another of the offshoot 3rd-party efforts that appear on ballots from time to time. (The word "constitution" is very popular in the titles of these things.) The values expressed seem "leave us alone/traditionalist" enough. But as Pete (IIRC) correctly pointed out, these usually fail to really gain traction because they so often aim higher than they have created roots for. They always want to start at National or Federal-rep level, without having grown the local or state candidates successfully that will be truly viable as candidates.
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To respond to Antifa thuggery in their own words, I must share a resurrected tidbit from a blogger who passed away not long ago, and someone who's likely been read by many. Ol' Remus had The Woodpile Report and this nugget from him is, I think, worth pondering (especially by the left, don't say you weren't warned).
"Middle class America is no less violent than any other people. They seem passive because they're results oriented. They rise not out of blood frenzy but to solve the otherwise insoluble. Their methods of choice are good will, cooperation, forbearance, negotiation and finally, appeasement, roughly in that order. Only when these fail to end the abuse do they revert to blowback. And they do so irretrievably. Once the course is set and the outcome defined, doubt is put aside. The middle class is known, condemned actually, for carrying out violence with the efficiency of an industrial project where bloody destruction at any scale is not only in play, it's a metric. Remorse is left for the next generation, they'll have the leisure for it. We'd like to believe this is merely dark speculation. History says it isn't."
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08-17-2020, 12:39
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My sense is another of the offshoot 3rd-party efforts that appear on ballots from time to time. (The word "constitution" is very popular in the titles of these things.) The values expressed seem "leave us alone/traditionalist" enough. But as Pete (IIRC) correctly pointed out, these usually fail to really gain traction because they so often aim higher than they have created roots for. They always want to start at National or Federal-rep level, without having grown the local or state candidates successfully that will be truly viable as candidates.
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I get you, you must have a solid foundation if you want something to grow.
Digging into a bit further, the limo had American Wolf plastered in big litters down the each side. The first thing that came to mind after seeing that was a new History Channel real life drama to follow in the footsteps of Pawn Stars, Hunting for Hitler and Oak Island.
I guess it could be an attempt at a 3rd party, but that type of entrance is kind of corny and could be as detrimental as Kris Kobach cruising the Old Shawnee Day's parade in a red, white and blue jeep mounted with a 50 Cal.
Another possibility is this is merely a opportunistic person or group hoping to cash in on the chaos by selling T-Shirts and other merchandise.
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08-17-2020, 13:18
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Another possibility is this is merely a opportunistic person or group hoping to cash in on the chaos by selling T-Shirts and other merchandise.
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Heh. Yeah, that could always be a possibility. Is this a great country, or what?
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08-21-2020, 13:01
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This could fit in many places.
It is a succinct summary of similar observations that many others here have shared in various posts.
The rioters hate you and they cannot be reasoned with.
Reclaiming Our Culture from the Left
By Robert Spencer
August 21, 2020
American Thinker
Everyone knows it: the death of George Floyd was just a pretext. The rioters who continue every night to wreak havoc in Portland, and who are poised to engage in new orgies of destruction all over the country don’t know much and care less about Floyd.
They’re quite open about engaging in a “revolution” with the goal of destroying the existing order and replacing it with an authoritarian Marxist regime. But what we are seeing today is not new. Its seeds were planted decades ago. Now the question before us, if we want to preserve the United States as a free society, is what we must do to counter this violent, hate-filled movement.
There will be no easy fix. The Left’s long march through the institutions began in the 1960s and has ended in total victory; only a reverse march through the same institutions will ultimately overcome the catastrophic effects of the Left’s advance.
The leftist stranglehold on the educational system is a big part of the problem: the Antifa and BLM barbarians of today learned their hatred at our colleges and universities. Our children have been taught to hate the land of their birth. Who didn’t think this would bear bitter fruit?
There was some indignation among conservatives over the 1619 Project, which portrays the entire American enterprise as racist, oppressive, and hateful, winning the Pulitzer Prize, but that was just the culmination of decades of miseducation and propaganda disguised as education. I wrote Rating America’s Presidents: An America-First Look at Who Is Best, Who Is Overrated, and Who Was An Absolute Disaster as an antidote, to remind Americans, or show them for the first time, the heroes who made America great -- and the failures and sellouts who got us into this fix.
But the education most of the rioters have received has made them abjectly incapable of thinking rationally and evaluating claims on the basis of their logical coherence and supporting evidence. No amount of careful reasoning, no amount of evidence is going to convince most of the rioters that their rage is based on false premises, because they have been carefully educated throughout their lives to feel rather than think, and to believe that America is a nation of deep injustice with a shameful history and an equally condemnable present.
It doesn’t matter that the claims that the rioters and their defenders are making are false. It doesn’t matter that police brutality affects people of all races. It doesn’t matter that thoroughgoing civil rights legislation has made “systemic racism” a thing of the distant past.
The rioters know America is evil because they have been taught it all their lives by virtually every authority they have encountered, and those authorities have also taught them that those who tell them otherwise are stupid, contemptible, and operating out of ulterior motives.
This is true of the establishment media as well as the educational system -- not to mention the corporate culture, the entertainment industry, and more. As long ago as 1962, Richard Nixon famously complained about biased press coverage during his campaign for Governor of California in 1962 when he said, “You won’t have Dick Nixon to kick around anymore.”
The propaganda machine that did him in was in its infancy then. Now it is infinitely more powerful, and most people still take its power for granted. No one bats an eye when Democratic Party operatives such as George Stephanopoulos and Donna Brazile, and a host of others, go into the “news” business. It is taken for granted that every reporter for every major publication, every last one, is a hard-Left ideologue.
This has consequences far beyond simply giving only one side of the story and doing everything possible to make President Trump look as bad as possible. Government and law enforcement officials at all levels today have no problem appearing at functions of groups such as the Hamas-linked Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), which the media consistently portrays as a “civil rights” organization when its agenda is in fact deeply subversive.
But they would never be caught dead at a conference of a group opposed to jihad violence and Sharia oppression of women, and if they did have the temerity to show up at such a gathering, they would have to answer to a hysterical media lynch mob enraged at their appearing at a meeting of a “hate group.”
All that is just a small part of a very large problem. If all this isn’t rolled back, the calls for revolution will get louder and shriller, and eventually prevail.
Can it possibly be done? Not all at once. But one step that could be taken now is the stripping of all federal funding from all universities and colleges that suppress all points of view that dissent from the leftist line. Another is a thoroughgoing reform of primary and secondary school material, such that it once again tells the truth about our nation, which will naturally make students proud to be American.
PBS and NPR, as just two more leftist propaganda mills, should also lose all federal funding. Let them survive on their merits if they can. And as for the rest of them, the legal protections that all the social media giants to maintain a monopoly on the means of communication must also be taken away. The self-appointed guardians of acceptable speech must be swept aside. Let the people determine for themselves who is telling the truth and who isn’t.
And as for the entertainment industry. Turn it off. Or watch movies from the 1940s and 1950s (which are better than the new ones anyway). If John Cusack and Robert de Niro want to lecture their audiences with hate-filled socialist agitprop, turn them off. If enough people did this, they’d feel it – and maybe a clever entrepreneur will arise in Hollywood who will realize that there is a great deal of money to be made from people who don’t want Leftism and anti-Americanism shoved at them in every movie.
Recover a sense of our history, our values, our culture, and teach them to your children. Our young people will not defend what they do not value. Learn in Rating America’s Presidents why America is even worth defending.
These are just a few general notes. There is much, much more that must be done. Yet none of this is even on the table now. If the nation is to survive, however, these things must be done. This fight isn’t over. And if the riots have shown us anything, it is that free Americans face a ruthless and determined foe. We must be no less resolute in the defense of truth, justice, and freedom.
https://www.americanthinker.com/arti..._the_left.html
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Can it possibly be done? Not all at once. But one step that could be taken now is the stripping of all federal funding from all universities and colleges that suppress all points of view that dissent from the leftist line. Another is a thoroughgoing reform of primary and secondary school material, such that it once again tells the truth about our nation, which will naturally make students proud to be American.
PBS and NPR, as just two more leftist propaganda mills, should also lose all federal funding. Let them survive on their merits if they can. And as for the rest of them, the legal protections that all the social media giants [use] to maintain a monopoly on the means of communication must also be taken away. The self-appointed guardians of acceptable speech must be swept aside. Let the people determine for themselves who is telling the truth and who isn’t.
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Wonderful article, thank you.
There is going to need to be a sea-change first for the above type things to start happening. The anarchist thug useful idiots & communists are going to have to be tossed into the giant Morbark first.
I'm literally at the point where, election this way or election that way, I don't care except that I understand what has been said by others, at other times in our history. I'm read to get it on in hopes my grandkids don't have to. And I'm probably not alone. It's not bravado; I've just had enough. Let's get to the rat-killin'.
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08-21-2020, 20:04
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Wonderful article, thank you.
There is going to need to be a sea-change first for the above type things to start happening. The anarchist thug useful idiots & communists are going to have to be tossed into the giant Morbark first.
I'm literally at the point where, election this way or election that way, I don't care except that I understand what has been said by others, at other times in our history. I'm read to get it on in hopes my grandkids don't have to. And I'm probably not alone. It's not bravado; I've just had enough. Let's get to the rat-killin'.
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It will be tough to roll back the brainwashed socialist advance in this country when too many of the young folks have been indoctrinated to believe that if your not a socialist - then by default you must be a fascist.
Couple that, with opposing views often being labeled hate speech, and reasonable opposition is simply being shut down on campus...in corporate America and by the media.
Badger, you are not alone in your observations - things may indeed get spicy no matter the election outcome - but if Trump wins then this rioting shit will most likely get shut down much faster.
You know, that 10 year sentence for tearing down a monument (essentially bringing it to a halt) might be applied to rioting...no more catch and release. Watch that shit slow down fast.
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08-21-2020, 23:24
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You know, that 10 year sentence for tearing down a monument (essentially bringing it to a halt) might be applied to rioting...no more catch and release. Watch that shit slow down fast.
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When Trump is re-elected and “if” the DOJ has the balls...first things first...trot out the Deep State in DC and put them all on trial, find them guilty of a coup and conspiracy to over throw the government. Sentence them to life in prison without the possibility of parole.
Second step, the FBI walks onto campus of “liberal U” and arrests every professor who has been involved with Antifa (I’m sure we know who they are) put them in prison for 10 years and fine them the maximum allowable by law (it should wipe out their life savings.)
Third and final step...round up the usual suspects from BLM/Antifa/Soros funded black operations and put them all n orange jump suits for a minimum of five years. In a federal prison where the only media they get is re-education on the principals of being an American.
All the rest of the riff raff will go back to their parents basement and spend time on the internet where the FCC can monitor them for subversive speech and activities. Then the FBI can clean up the stragglers.
I would never have thought in my lifetime that that is what needs to happen but these are very interesting times.
The alternative is a little more draconian.
If Biden is elected then get ready for a second paragraph to the Declaration of Independence solution and the Second Amendment to the BOR to solve the problem with both government not of the people and self-defense of American ideology. (Or Civil War part two)
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Second step, the FBI walks onto campus of “liberal U” and arrests every professor who has been involved with Antifa (I’m sure we know who they are) put them in prison for 10 years and fine them the maximum allowable by law (it should wipe out their life savings.)
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Speaking of which, what ever happened to the "professor" at West Point who indoctrinated Commie Cadet Rapone?
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When Trump is re-elected and “if” the DOJ has the balls...first things first...trot out the Deep State in DC and put them all on trial, find them guilty of a coup and conspiracy to over throw the government. Sentence them to life in prison without the possibility of parole.
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Right now the stones are not there, in my opinion. Even for all the snakes concerned - and it's a very long list - Barr isn't going to pursue "political" crimes for which no statute exists. Getting Brennan, Clapper & Comey for perjury, and people like Strzok for falsifying records, and someone like Sen. Mark Warner for failure to register as a foreign agent won't do for the visceral satisfaction of life in prison. But they're provable - IF Barr has the stones to proceed with what Durham's team has. I don't think Barr has it - I think he's part of the problem and will give top-cover to traitors because he won't let "political" aspects or motives be factored into criminal conduct. And Durham's lead investigator Aldenberg, by the way, has it all, big picture as well as the details from each subordinate investigator's rabbit hole.
So it's a big "if"... not holding breath; it's more profitable to just do some cardio because this isn't the movie "Absence of Malice" and Wilford Brimley isn't going to come in at the end to exact justice and fire the snakes.
This has been quite the digression from the thread title so I apologize. Just seems the state of affairs has some circular stuff going on, what with politicos giving other politicos cover, and politicos giving Communist street thugs cover.
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...trot out the Deep State in DC and put them all on trial, find them guilty of a coup and conspiracy to overthrow the government. Sentence them to life in prison without the possibility of parole.
Second step, the FBI walks onto campus of “liberal U” and arrests every professor who has been involved with Antifa (I’m sure we know who they are) put them in prison for 10 years and fine them the maximum allowable by law (it should wipe out their life savings.)
Third and final step...round up the usual suspects from BLM/Antifa/Soros funded black operations and put them all n orange jumpsuits for a minimum of five years. In a federal prison where the only media they get is re-education on the principals of being an American.
All the rest of the riff-raff will go back to their parent's basement and spend time on the internet where the FCC can monitor them for subversive speech and activities. Then the FBI can clean up the stragglers.
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That sounds like the plot for one of Tarantino's alternative history movies - I like it.
"Once Upon a Time Inside The Beltway"
Michael Madsen is in a lot of Tarantino movies - we could cast him as President Trump. This is a big project so it will HAVE to be an all-star cast. There isn't another member of the SAG that could fill the role of Barr like Harvey Keitel - the penultimate "cleaner" - Keitel is going to really bring the DOJ role to life.
Then of course we need to find a role for Kurt Russel: Death Proof - Hateful 8 - there is no way "Once Upon a Time Inside The Beltway" get a green light without him in the cast.
Tim Roth gets a role too - after watching Jules Winfield put that gun in his face and says, " The truth is you're the weak. And I'm the tyranny of evil men. But I'm tryin', Ringo. I'm tryin' real hard to be the shepherd." there's no way Roth doesn't get a part in the movie...
...Tim Roth is going to finally give some soul to Adam Shiff.
I'm thinking of a best-supporting-actor nomination for Samuel L Jackson in his role as President Barack Hussien Obama - some of the best movie lines in the history of crooked politics came out of his presidency and Mace Windu will knock those lines out of the park:
"I've had it with these motherfucking republicans in this motherfucking congress!!!!"
Obama: I'm not giving you that money Iran. I'm buying something from you. Wanna know what I'm buyin' Iran?
Iran: What?
Obama : Leverage. I'm givin' you that money so I don't have to sanction your ass.
"Yes they deserved to be spied on - I hope it helps trigger impeachment"
I even have a great idea for the perfect Hollywood depiction of Nancy Pel0si and Cuck Schumer - to play the role of these two timeless democrats we're going to bring in none other than Jane Fonda and Sean Penn.
The tickets to the voting booth are going to be well worth the cost of admission. We have a special screening planned for the November with the grand opening in late January
...I'm thinking this film could win more Oscars than Ben-Hur
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I love this concept; especially if this last part is a snuff film. Director's cut.
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I love this concept; especially if this last part is a snuff film. Director's cut.
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I wouldn't say snuff film - My virtue signaling is far to snobby to use that term.
...however, lets just agree that pretty much all Tarantino films go overboard on the violence. His films also manage to use the darkest virtue signaling to ever find its way into a theater. Now if ANTIFA and Democrats can be so tightly intertwined in their themes of violence and virtue, then who better to Produce and Direct "Once Upon a Time Inside The Beltway"
Tarantino has made a career out of Bad-Guys-as-Heros movies - what is Antifa and the current congress if not the incarnation of 600+ Bad-Guys-as-Heros ??
For shit sakes - Tarantino put a 1990's Bruce Willis in a ball-gag and then had him strangle a gimp and murder a guy with a Samurai sword while he stood by and watched a cop rape a gangster. He murdered Vinnie Barbarino in cold blood - he exploits a woman that seems to have a learning disability - he dabbles in illicit gambling for profit and even killed a boxer that he was supposed to 'let win' !!
Then like a true democrat, Tarantino had the nerve to explain how "Pulp Fiction" was full of positive and socially responsible themes:
-Everyone that abused drugs paid a high price for their irresponsible behavior.
-Violence begets violence - Butch had returned home to get his gold watch; a watch that had a history of honor and sacrifice and Butch needed to "earn" his birth rite so when Butch risked his life to save Marcellus from the evil sodomites, his character was redeemed and set free.
-Jules repented from his life of crime after feeling the touch of God.
-Vincent ridiculed the idea of redemption and died a violent death.
-There are two happy interracial marriages depicted in the film - Marcellus and Mia and Jimmy and Bonnie.
-Winston Wolfe demonstrated what professional business interaction should look like:
---He promised he would be at Jimmy's in 10 minutes - he made it there in 9
---He made it a point to become acquainted with the names of his clients before arriving at the home.
---He introduced himself and politely asked if he could enter the home.
---He politely asked for coffee and then thanked his host graciously.
---He took full responsibility for the quality of his work by electing to drive the tainted car.
-Tarantino resisted the urge to let corporate sponsors abuse his story with shameless product placement-instead he used fictional products:
---Big Kahuna Burger
---Red Apple Cigarettes
---McCleary Scotch Whisky
I'm convinced - if there is a hollyweird producer that could unapologeticly capture the pure essence of ANTIFA...in their own words, juxtaposed with the shitty state of American politics - that man would be Quentin Jerome Tarantino.
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I'm convinced - if there is a hollyweird producer that could unapologeticly capture the pure essence of ANTIFA...in their own words, juxtaposed with the shitty state of American politics - that man would be Quentin Jerome Tarantino.
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One other suggestion, both as a paean to Tarantino and b'slap to Antifa...
No PC music with stupid lyrics, no rap, no sugary ballads that trigger diabetic comas.
Just take a Tarantino page and reprise the use of classic INSTRUMENTAL surf music.
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