03-12-2016, 11:49
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Amazing that Cruz and Rubio would offer support to disrupting the process, violence and radical groups like Black Lives Matter.
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03-12-2016, 12:57
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I'm disappointed to see Ted Cruz buy into the innocence of the mob
In Fayetteville a 78 year old man assaulted a man that was already being removed by security.
...so is that man free of accountability since it is "Trumps fault" ??
78 year old man.... it doesn't get any more adult than that.
Am I to believe that a 78 year old man spent the last 77 years of his life as a Ted Cruz style conservative only to be radicalized to violence by a few months worth of reality TV style Trump speeches?
Or maybe that 78 your old man is just a crazy, racist, jackass.
Or is even Ted Cruz going to now step on the bandwagon that riots and protest violence are usually the sole responsibility of a political rival. If it is controversial, we can just claim that its the same as yelling fire in a crowded theater or bomb on an airplane.
Offensive free speech should be punished.
I wish our politicians would just be brave and repeal that pesky 1st amendment so we would no longer have to suffer irresponsible jackasses like Donald Trump.
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03-12-2016, 13:11
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I'm disappointed to see Ted Cruz buy into the innocence of the mob
In Fayetteville a 78 year old man assaulted a man that was already being removed by security.
...so is that man free of accountability since it is "Trumps fault" ??
78 year old man.... it doesn't get any more adult than that.
Am I to believe that a 78 year old man spent the last 77 years of his life as a Ted Cruz style conservative only to be radicalized to violence by a few months worth of reality TV style Trump speeches?
Or maybe that 78 your old man is just a crazy, racist, jackass.
Or is even Ted Cruz going to now step on the bandwagon that riots and protest violence are usually the sole responsibility of a political rival. If it is controversial, we can just claim that its the same as yelling fire in a crowded theater or bomb on an airplane.
Offensive free speech should be punished.
I wish our politicians would just be brave and repeal that pesky 1st amendment so we would no longer have to suffer irresponsible jackasses like Donald Trump.
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What exactly did Sen. Cruz say that leads you to say these things about him? Maybe I am missing something. 
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03-12-2016, 15:23
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What exactly did Sen. Cruz say that leads you to say these things about him? Maybe I am missing something. |
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Texas Sen. Ted Cruz, who has the second most delegates in the race for the Republican presidential nomination, on Friday accused the front-runner of inciting the restlessness that was seen in Chicago and other events.
A white male Trump supporter punched a black protestor at a recent event in Fayettville, N.C.
“Any campaign that disrespects the voters and a campaign that encourages violence … you create an environment that encourages this,” Cruz said.
Cruz was speaking to reporters at a Republican dinner in Rolling Meadows, Illinois, and warned that violence at these rallies weren’t going to stop.
“The candidate urges violence to punch people in the face. This is not going to be the last incident,” he said. “This is not how our politics should occur.”
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To the 2 highlighted portions above, there is no monopoly on campaigns (or sitting/former Senators) that have "disrespected" voters. Further, the remark previously made by Trump that may have led to Cruz' remark was at least said in the first person (with Trump willing to land the punch). There is no way it could be construed to be inciting others to punch each other in the face unless Cruz' crew is channeling the Dem's previous response method to Palin's "reload" quote. Everyone seems to agree that free speech is important unless it's your opponent getting stifled.
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03-12-2016, 15:36
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To the 2 highlighted portions above, there is no monopoly on campaigns (or sitting/former Senators) that have "disrespected" voters. Further, the remark previously made by Trump that may have led to Cruz' remark was at least said in the first person (with Trump willing to land the punch). There is no way it could be construed to be inciting others to punch each other in the face unless Cruz' crew is channeling the Dem's previous response method to Palin's "reload" quote. Everyone seems to agree that free speech is important unless it's your opponent getting stifled.
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Man, that's all you have? Why does anyone care?
I wish people would focus on policies and issues. This kind of stuff is really silly and irrelevant IMO.
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03-12-2016, 16:03
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Man, that's all you have? Why does anyone care?
I wish people would focus on policies and issues. This kind of stuff is really silly and irrelevant IMO.
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What really blows me away about the support for Trump I see here is that the man's values are so completely inconsistent with the values you guys preach all the time.
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FWIW, Mr. Cruz himself has used the unrest in Chicago to contrast the differences he and Mr. Trump have IRT values https://youtu.be/YU8iVsKIMb8 .
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03-12-2016, 16:27
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Man, that's all you have? Why does anyone care?
I wish people would focus on policies and issues. This kind of stuff is really silly and irrelevant IMO.
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I agree; but you asked the question.
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03-12-2016, 16:44
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FWIW, Mr. Cruz himself has used the unrest in Chicago to contrast the differences he and Mr. Trump have IRT values https://youtu.be/YU8iVsKIMb8 . |
That's BS
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03-12-2016, 16:45
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I agree; but you asked the question.
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LOL, touche!
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03-12-2016, 16:50
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This kind of stuff is really silly and irrelevant IMO.
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Not really. Anytime, anyone disrupt the process for the sole purpose of preventing free speech it is not silly, nor is it irrelevant.
What Mr. Constitution Ted Cruz did was advocate the disruption of free speech, he encourage mob mentality and shifted the blame from the trouble makers. If the mob had gone Ferguson, Holier than Thou Ted Cruz would have blamed it all on Donald Trump instead of the hooligans.
Ted is looking more and more like the A-Typical Shape shifter policitican rather than the Constitutional Crusader he protrays himself as. He now even has scam artist Neil Bush making public statements.
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03-12-2016, 19:36
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Cruz has a style problem (or possibly an attitude problem), and it's costing him voters.
Doesn't matter whether it "should" cost him voters, it does.
Trump is an arrogant narcissistic asshole, but he doesn't talk down to voters.
Cruz tries to be "above it all", but in the process comes across as very patronizing and condescending.
If that patronizing, condescending style is not an actual outward manifestation of his character, it should be simple for him to adjust his tone.
Either his handlers are too incompetent to figure this out, or his tone is an accurate representation of his character.
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03-12-2016, 20:21
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Trump is leading because he's the best worst choice among the GOP candidates. I say "best worse choice" because all the GOP Candidates suck:
Cruz - Tea Party nut-job and leader of the GOP's highly partisan agenda.
Trump - Arrogant narcissistic hater.
Rubio - Extremely low IQ. He speaks as though he barely completed high school.
Kasich - Lacks a winning personality (much like Rubio).
The United States will NOT vote in a GOP candidate into office this election cycle for this simple reason -- ALL THE GOP PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES SUCK. Denying climate change? Spewing hate speech? Proposing foreign policy initiatives that take us back to the neocon Bush-era? Shutting down regulatory functions that prevent financial, environmental, and social calamity? NO THANK YOU.
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03-12-2016, 21:57
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Trump is leading because he's the best worst choice among the GOP candidates. I say "best worse choice" because all the GOP Candidates suck:
Cruz - Tea Party nut-job and leader of the GOP's highly partisan agenda.
Trump - Arrogant narcissistic hater.
Rubio - Extremely low IQ. He speaks as though he barely completed high school.
Kasich - Lacks a winning personality (much like Rubio).
The United States will NOT vote in a GOP candidate into office this election cycle for this simple reason -- ALL THE GOP PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES SUCK. Denying climate change? Spewing hate speech? Proposing foreign policy initiatives that take us back to the neocon Bush-era? Shutting down regulatory functions that prevent financial, environmental, and social calamity? NO THANK YOU.
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Sounds like you might find what you are looking for in Bernie Sanders.
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03-13-2016, 00:57
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Trump is leading because he's the best worst choice among the GOP candidates.
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IMO: Trump is leading because his advisors understand that getting the nomination and running against the Dems are two different animals. He's a salesman. And he is selling to the group that will get him the nomination. That group may not be able to get him the oval office. But that's a down the road issue. If you don't win the nomination it doesn't matter what your ultimate story is. I would expect a different candidate to appear if he gets the nomination.
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The United States will NOT vote in a GOP candidate into office this election cycle for this simple reason -- ALL THE GOP PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES SUCK.
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I don't agree with you. But I do admire your SA skills.
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03-13-2016, 17:14
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"The Fix is In"
They are starting to get "The Fix is In" together.
They launched to balloon to to see if it gets any Flack from anybody but Trump.
"A Republican National Committee Standing Rules Committee member told the membership Friday that convention delegates are not bound to cast their votes at the convention according to primary vote results in the first round of voting...."
Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2016/03/13/rn...#ixzz42pONJlAE
Note to Cruz supporters - he ain't their first pick either.
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