07-19-2013, 17:18
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The thing is, when a 'movement' starts roiling on it's own - it is impossible to direct, let alone stop.
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You know, if you think about it, the majority of black Americans don't have any desire to cause trouble. They make up, what, 13% of the population as a whole? Probably most of the males between 17 and 30 are incarcerated in the cities where there would be problems. I don't see how anything big could come of it, even with the huge portion of the white population (liberals) "acting up". What are they gonna do-boycott the judicial system?
There was a trial, Zimmerman was acquitted, and he's Hispanic.
No matter how hard they try to spin this into a black/white conflict, they'd have an uphill climb.
I think they're just popping smoke on the serious scandals.
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07-19-2013, 18:17
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I'm wondering if the professional Left are thinking that they can manipulate this "Trayvon" thing into a form of an 'American Spring'?
Using the 'never let a crisis' philosophy to mobilize Progressives and still guilty whites, the media drumbeat lie of persistent racism to mobilize blacks, coupled with the record heat wave - we may be looking at another 1968.
The thing is, when a 'movement' starts roiling on it's own - it is impossible to direct, let alone stop. Riots (real or created) could just be an unintended (planned for) possibility to take advantage of too.
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I think it is exactly what Dusty and in another thread Trapper John already mentioned -- while everyone keeps this alive, we don't talk about Benghazi, IRS, etc. What are the actual et cetera we are missing?
Getting DOJ involved keeps fanning the flames and attention away from ....
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07-19-2013, 18:28
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I think it is exactly what Dusty and in another thread Trapper John already mentioned -- while everyone keeps this alive, we don't talk about Benghazi, IRS, etc. What are the actual et cetera we are missing?
Getting DOJ involved keeps fanning the flames and attention away from .... 
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...while simultaneously connecting with his base, who are probably mostly anti-Zimmerman, by appearing to side with them against the antagonists while not actually assuming command and control of anything.
That's his MO.
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07-19-2013, 18:39
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...while simultaneously connecting with his base, who are probably mostly anti-Zimmerman, by appearing to side with them against the antagonists while not actually assuming command and control of anything.
That's his MO.
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I agree that makes sense, but his base has no where else to go. So throwing them a bone doesn't do too much. He does more by trying to appeal to the middle and this is driving the middle /independents to the right.... in the fast lane. No moderate or business person wants this in the news everyday.
Of course, he may dislike HRC more than he likes Democrats winning. He may be not only the NRA's best recruiter, he may be the Republican's best one as well.
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07-19-2013, 19:52
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I agree that makes sense, but his base has no where else to go. So throwing them a bone doesn't do too much. He does more by trying to appeal to the middle and this is driving the middle /independents to the right.... in the fast lane.
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It took him nearly a week to make a statement. IMO it was one that was researched via focus polling to the nth degree, then hashed over and rehashed until his handlers distilled it into those words.
In other words, they felt more voters were disappointed by the verdict than agreed with it, and that votes he needs next year will come from that segment.
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07-19-2013, 21:18
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35 years ago it could've been him?!?
Ummm... no.
If it were him jumping the neighborhood watch guy 35 years ago, the outcome would've been much different.
The neighborhood watch guy would eat the first punch, laugh, and respond with a bitch-slap.
The president sure does think highly of his martial prowess.
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07-20-2013, 04:34
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One thing that sets it for me is, I may have even read it here in a post. "A brown man kills a black (Afro-Amer) man, and the white man gets the blame....WTF?!?!
Yup, never let a crisis go to waste...
And what's this "Social Engineer" thing that the lawyer stated (was on the Blaze coupla days ago). Are they trying to "engineer" the social state of America to mold people into their way of thinking???
The POTUS has no cause (personal opinion) to inject his personal "feelings/thoughts" to agitate and clearly support one side of the issue. He should have stood for the justice that was served by the FL court..
Way to support a state bro...or NOT
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07-20-2013, 04:47
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I am so confused. First, POTUS says Trayvon could have been his son, then later he says HE could have been Trayvon. Which is it??? So POTUS, as a teen, was a wannabe gangsta, juvenile delinquent who was willing to kill a man by bashing his head in?
This witch hunt against Zimmerman really sickens me. As our legal system is set up to do so, and has worked successfully (for the most part) for the last couple of hundred years plus, accept the jury's verdict and move on. Let it go.
But it seems POTUS and Holder have locked on to this story to further their anti-gun agenda, and are willing to push for riots and mayhem, and possibly more people dying, just to further said agenda.
I saw on Facebook that Zimmerman should change his name to Ben Ghazi, and then the press, POTUS, et al would leave him alone. Brilliant.
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07-20-2013, 05:54
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We have a consulate attacked, an Ambassador and 2 former SEALs killed, a Jihadi glamorized on the cover of Rolling Stone - and we have our tits in the wringer over this kerfuffle?
Speaks volumes as to the state of our society today IMO.
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07-20-2013, 07:23
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"The Tawana Brawley Show" Season 2, Disc 1
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories...07-20-08-31-03
ATLANTA (AP) -- One week after a Florida jury found George Zimmerman not guilty in the death of unarmed teen Trayvon Martin, rallies are scheduled in 100 cities to press for civil rights charges against the former neighborhood watch leader.
Zimmerman claimed self-defense after shooting Martin during an altercation. The case has become a flashpoint in national debates over guns, race relations and self-defense laws. Zimmerman identifies as Hispanic. Martin was black.
The Rev. Al Sharpton's National Action Network has organized the "Justice for Trayvon" rallies and vigils outside federal buildings from New York and Los Angeles to Des Moines, Iowa, and Little Rock, Ark. He wants the Justice Department to pursue a case.
The group says Martin's mother and brother will attend the New York event. His father will appear in Miami.
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07-20-2013, 07:44
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We have a consulate attacked, an Ambassador and 2 former SEALs killed, a Jihadi glamorized on the cover of Rolling Stone - and we have our tits in the wringer over this kerfuffle?
Speaks volumes as to the state of our society today IMO. 
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Yes it does.
Add to that such actions as Chris Matthews apologizing for all white people.
Stop. Just as Jackson or Sharpton don't speak for all black people.
I am prejudice, against stupid people - of any color, race, sex, age, religion.
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07-20-2013, 08:00
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This is Florida for heavens sake, where nonwhites make up almost half the population - or more - depending on the time of year. It is not a stretch to suggest that Blacks and Whites and Hispanics, etc., etc., peacefully interact and coexist throughout Florida on a daily basis.
Obama, Holder and the propaganda arm of the Democrats have inexcusably allowed the race baiters and hucksters to lead the way and Obama and Holder have personally fanned the flames of racial divide in this country.
The bash mobs and the meyhem that ensues...
Well, it is on their hands.
In this age of seemingly no government accountability that probably does not mean very much.
We newskool.
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07-20-2013, 08:07
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I am so confused. First, POTUS says Trayvon could have been his son, then later he says HE could have been Trayvon. Which is it??? So POTUS, as a teen, was a wannabe gangsta, juvenile delinquent who was willing to kill a man by bashing his head in?
This witch hunt against Zimmerman really sickens me. As our legal system is set up to do so, and has worked successfully (for the most part) for the last couple of hundred years plus, accept the jury's verdict and move on. Let it go.
But it seems POTUS and Holder have locked on to this story to further their anti-gun agenda, and are willing to push for riots and mayhem, and possibly more people dying, just to further said agenda.
I saw on Facebook that Zimmerman should change his name to Ben Ghazi, and then the press, POTUS, et al would leave him alone. Brilliant.
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He is a man for all occasions, a pitch man, one that will lock on to any story to get some face time to push an agenda......but those agendas are just a means of achieving his agenda.
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http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories...07-20-08-31-03
ATLANTA (AP) -- One week after a Florida jury found George Zimmerman not guilty in the death of unarmed teen Trayvon Martin, rallies are scheduled in 100 cities to press for civil rights charges against the former neighborhood watch leader.
Zimmerman claimed self-defense after shooting Martin during an altercation. The case has become a flashpoint in national debates over guns, race relations and self-defense laws. Zimmerman identifies as Hispanic. Martin was black.
The Rev. Al Sharpton's National Action Network has organized the "Justice for Trayvon" rallies and vigils outside federal buildings from New York and Los Angeles to Des Moines, Iowa, and Little Rock, Ark. He wants the Justice Department to pursue a case.
The group says Martin's mother and brother will attend the New York event. His father will appear in Miami.
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A potential 100 Tahrir Squares, thousands of people in the midst of which are agent provocateurs, the scene gets rowdy, Law Enforcement reacts and we have can ourselves a Trayvon Spring.
If Sharpton and Holder were get there way, Blacks can run around with impunity performing ethnic cleansing........the far extreme of Affirmative Action and the EEOC.
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07-20-2013, 08:23
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It's days (and Threads) like this that I miss Teddy the most.
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07-20-2013, 08:47
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It's days (and Threads) like this that I miss Teddy the most. 
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Very true.
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