01-30-2013, 08:40
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If we all get along and leave each other alone there would be no need for a long list of special interest groups and the people associated with them.
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Bingo! Which goes along with something I was thinking about this morning, not saying the Pledge of Allegiance in schools. I learned a lot about patriotism as a child, and I stood each morning, proudly with my hand over my heart as I recited that pledge. I remember tripping over the word "indivisible" when I was a boy. Indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
Of all the things that busy a child during their day, that pledge is the one thing that helps remind them that they are a very small part of a bigger thing, a nation. Without that reminder, they are just little people with no common cause, only things which so divide us: religion, skin color, economic status etc.
If we could, as a nation, work towards indivisibility, instead of division on every level, imagine what a different nation this would be.
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01-30-2013, 09:01
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01-30-2013, 09:17
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Is Boulder bleeding over into Larimer County?
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01-30-2013, 09:31
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Originally Posted by MR2
Fort Collins students read Pledge of Allegiance in Arabic
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I'd be glad to help them with their German.
Ich verspreche allegience, der Flagge, der Vereinigten Staaten von Amerika, und der Republik, für die sie steht, eine Nation unter Gott, unteilbar, mit Freiheit und Gerechtigkeit für alle.
But I'm a bit rusty, I haven't used it much over the last few decades...except I did get to use it a couple of weeks ago to speak to a couple from near Rostock who we met at the Grgich Hills winery in Rutherford. Visitors are always surprised to encounter Americans who are multi-lingual; their perceptions seem to be that we don't care much about other languages or cultures. 
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01-30-2013, 10:50
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except I did get to use it a couple of weeks ago to speak to a couple from near Rostock who we met at the Grgich Hills winery in Rutherford.
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Neat Richard, that must've been very cool. The Rostock area was a popular destination way "back in the day", but it wasn't because of wineries.
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01-30-2013, 13:10
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As long as they're saying the Pledge, if they occasionally lapse into Klingon, it's okay by me. Geeks need to say the Pledge, too!
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01-30-2013, 22:49
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Wyoming: http://legisweb.state.wy.us/2013/Bills/HB0105.pdf
Best way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun.
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01-31-2013, 04:25
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From a report in the paper to the state house, and entitled "Citizens' and Students' Self-Defense Act."
Total, including refs & necessary corrections to underlying statutes, 3 pages, double-spaced. These guys are doing something right.
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01-31-2013, 09:41
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02-01-2013, 21:11
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Illinois concealed carry: http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/full...cSess=&Session
This is starting to get interesting.
Issuing authorities would have to prove why someone shouldn't receive a license.
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the Department shall have the burden of proving by clear and convincing evidence that the applicant would pose a danger to the applicant's self, another, or public safety, or would use a firearm unlawfully, if granted a license to carry a concealed firearm under this Act.
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If the court decides that the reason for the denial was arbitrary, capricious, malicious, or without merit, the court shall award punitive damages.
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The Department shall enter into reciprocal agreements with any other state whose requirements to obtain a license or permit is substantially similar to those requirements contained in Section 85.
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02-01-2013, 22:18
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Montana lending some common sense to schools:
http://data.opi.mt.gov/bills/2013/lchtml/LC1672.htm
Passing a law to clarify that a "finger gun" is not actually a gun.
Sadly, such laws now are necessary.
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02-02-2013, 19:34
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South Carolina: http://www.scstatehouse.gov/sess120_.../bills/247.htm
Exempts "unorganized militia" from federal gun laws.
Seems pretty consistent with the 2nd Amendment.
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02-04-2013, 22:53
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An interesting article addressing the theme of this thread:
http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews...a-gun-controls
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02-05-2013, 05:32
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Scratch one more "no-carry" zone in Arkastan. Beebe said he'll sign.
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/arkansas-ho...235026007.html
Incidentally, AR is controlled by Republicans for the first time in a century.
LITTLE ROCK, Ark (Reuters) - The Arkansas House of Representatives approved a bill on Monday to allow concealed-carry permit holders to take their weapons into churches, and it is expected to be signed into law by the state's governor.
The Church Protection Act would allow individual places of worship to decide whether to allow concealed handguns and who could carry them. The Republican-controlled House passed the bill 85-8 with bipartisan support. The measure previously passed the Republican-controlled Senate 28-4.
Arkansas joins a handful of other states, including South Carolina, Wyoming and Louisiana, that allow guns in churches, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures.
Gun control and gun rights issues have dominated the public conversation since a gunman shot dead 20 children and six adults at an elementary school December 14 in Newtown, Connecticut.
Arkansas Governor Mike Beebe, a Democrat, was expected to sign the bill into law.
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02-05-2013, 09:38
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http://ca.news.yahoo.com/arkansas-ho...235026007.html
Incidentally, AR is controlled by Republicans for the first time in a century.
LITTLE ROCK, Ark (Reuters) - The Arkansas House of Representatives approved a bill on Monday to allow concealed-carry permit holders to take their weapons into churches, and it is expected to be signed into law by the state's governor.
The Church Protection Act would allow individual places of worship to decide whether to allow concealed handguns and who could carry them. The Republican-controlled House passed the bill 85-8 with bipartisan support. The measure previously passed the Republican-controlled Senate 28-4.
Arkansas joins a handful of other states, including South Carolina, Wyoming and Louisiana, that allow guns in churches, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures.
Gun control and gun rights issues have dominated the public conversation since a gunman shot dead 20 children and six adults at an elementary school December 14 in Newtown, Connecticut.
Arkansas Governor Mike Beebe, a Democrat, was expected to sign the bill into law.
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