05-20-2010, 11:44
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Seems to me as if nearly everyone has the same problems - no matter the nationality, immigration laws only work on those who are law abiding minded to begin with and seem to work less well for countries who are perceived to be 'economic magnets of opportunity'.
Ask a Native American how well their policies worked for them.
And so it goes... 
Richard's $.02 
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05-20-2010, 12:03
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That is disgusting... 
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what do you find disgusting?? Mexicos immigration laws...or my comment??
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05-20-2010, 13:03
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05-20-2010, 13:35
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Originally Posted by ZonieDiver
Hell, I am even rooting for the Lakers because Phil Jackson's statement about this law is one of the few by a "celebrity" that makes any sense
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Considering the timing of Jackson's remarks, I cannot but help wonder if they're really meant to serve a different goal. In any case, he may be sleeping on the couch these days as Jeannie Buss is not happy.
That's Amare!
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05-20-2010, 13:52
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Originally Posted by glebo
Funny you should ask..
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010...ration-policy/
I can't believe this piece of mierda is critising a US state on our on our soil, in our Nations Capitol......with the POTUS even....who seems to agree with it.
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And he got a standing ovation from half of the house.
http://gretawire.blogs.foxnews.com/president-calderon/
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05-20-2010, 16:29
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Some great humor from the We Heart Arizona Facebook pages:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?op...07346?v=photos
Meanwhile - Texas has been put on alert! 
And so it goes...
Richard's $.02
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“Almost any sect, cult, or religion will legislate its creed into law if it acquires the political power to do so.” - Robert Heinlein
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05-20-2010, 16:57
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"The difference is that back then, we had the intestinal fortitude to do what we needed to in order to preserve our territorial sovereignty and to protect the citizens of this great country, and today, we do not." TR
"I attribute the little I know to my not having been ashamed to ask for information, and to my rule of conversing with all descriptions of men on those topics that form their own peculiar professions and pursuits." John Locke
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05-20-2010, 19:29
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It seems the president will appease any foreign leader who might be angry with us.
/rant on
The current office-holder isn't cleverly undermining the nation in order to establish his socialistic utopia,
he's just incompetent and weak!
Awww, Mr. President...is that a tear I see?
IS DADDY'S LITTLE GIRL GONNA CRY!?!
The man is an incompetent weakling and is unfit to lead.
/rant off
Got rid of cable prior to the election.
Haven't seen him on tv since then.
Judging by the reaction of some on this board, I'm glad he isn't invading my living room.
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05-25-2010, 22:14
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Response to President Calderon
Couldn't find this video on here yet. I'm glad someone in congress had the backbone (does it really take that much these days to stand up for your own country?  ) to say something.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcwF_...eature=related
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06-13-2010, 18:36
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Drug Cartels' Corridor in AZ
Pinal County Sheriff Paul Babeau is asking Pres. Obama for 3,000 troops, stating that local law enforcement is outmanned and outgunned in a battle with drug cartel smugglers "3 counties from the border." It was in Pinal County where a deputy sheriff was shot in an ambush by smugglers he was tracking. Two apparent smugglers were killed near that spot recently. Check the artilce and video (note the warning sign in the video):
http://www.abc15.com/dpp/news/region...rts-of-arizona
Location of Pinal County:
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06-22-2010, 23:27
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/us_...a/10386190.stm
Mexico joins Arizona immigration lawsuit
Wednesday, 23 June 2010 03:02 UK
Mexico joins Arizona immigration lawsuit
Page last updated at 02:02 GMT, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 03:02 UK
E-mail this to a friend Printable version The law has provoked angry protests Mexico has joined a legal challenge to a controversial new immigration law in the US state of Arizona.
In papers submitted to a US federal court, the Mexican government argues that the law is unconstitutional and would damage bilateral relations.
It says it is concerned that it could lead to unlawful discrimination against Mexican citizens....
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06-23-2010, 04:41
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Originally Posted by incarcerated
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/us_...a/10386190.stm
Mexico joins Arizona immigration lawsuit
Wednesday, 23 June 2010 03:02 UK
Mexico joins Arizona immigration lawsuit
Page last updated at 02:02 GMT, Wednesday, 23 June 2010 03:02 UK
E-mail this to a friend Printable version The law has provoked angry protests Mexico has joined a legal challenge to a controversial new immigration law in the US state of Arizona.
In papers submitted to a US federal court, the Mexican government argues that the law is unconstitutional and would damage bilateral relations.
It says it is concerned that it could lead to unlawful discrimination against Mexican citizens....
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And this affects Mexican citizens (in Mexico I am assuming, since it is from the Mexican government) how?!
-That is, the ones either choosing to stay in Mexico or gain lawful entry into our country...
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04-09-2011, 11:31
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Via e-mail:
Judicial Watch Wins Motion in SB 1070 Lawsuit!
This week, let’s start with a big Judicial Watch victory.
On Wednesday, April 5, our client, the Arizona State Legislature, was granted permission to intervene as a defendant in the Obama Department of Justice (DOJ) lawsuit against SB 1070, Arizona’s get-tough illegal immigration law. Judge Susan Bolton granted Judicial Watch’s motion over the objections of the Obama DOJ. Here’s a quick squib from the order, which was short and sweet:
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On February 7, 2011, Arizona Governor Janice K. Brewer signed into law Senate Bill 1117 (“S.B. 1117”), which provides that “the Speaker of the House of Representatives and the President of the Senate may direct counsel to initiate a legal proceeding or appear on behalf of their respective chambers or on behalf of the Legislature in any challenge in a state or federal court” to S.B. 1070. The Legislature now seeks permission of the Court to intervene as a Defendant in this action…permitting the Legislature to intervene at this time will not unduly delay or prejudice the original parties…the Court in its discretion finds that the Legislature should be permitted to intervene as Defendant at this time.
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Now, the Legislature joins the State of Arizona, Governor Brewer and the author of the law, Arizona State Senate President and Judicial Watch client Russell Pearce, for the purpose of defending its enactment of SB 1070 in the interests of the people of Arizona.
You may recall that Judicial Watch filed its “Motion to Intervene,” on February 11, 2011, with the U.S. District Court for the District of Arizona stating: “The Legislature…has a paramount interest in seeing that [SB 1070’s] enactment is upheld.” At the same time, we also filed an “Answer in Intervention” with the court on behalf of the Arizona State Legislature. And here are our main arguments:
“[The Arizona Legislature] has a right to protect its citizens.”
“Arizona has a right to self defense under the Constitution, particularly when the federal government fails to protect it.”
“[The Arizona Legislature] complied with all relevant federal, state, and local laws, including the Arizona Constitution and the [U.S.] Constitution” in crafting SB 1070.
“SB 1070 is not preempted by federal law or the Constitution. SB 1070 does not conflict with federal law, does not constitute an improper regulation of immigration, and Congress has not fully occupied the field.”
Fortunately, thanks to Judge Bolton’s ruling, the Arizona Legislature will have the opportunity to make this case in court....
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