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Old 03-07-2004, 23:25   #136
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LOL - did you find it yet?
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Somewhere a True Believer is training to kill you. He is training with minimal food or water, in austere conditions, training day and night. The only thing clean on him is his weapon and he made his web gear. He doesn't worry about what workout to do - his ruck weighs what it weighs, his runs end when the enemy stops chasing him. This True Believer is not concerned about 'how hard it is;' he knows either he wins or dies. He doesn't go home at 17:00, he is home.
He knows only The Cause.

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Old 03-07-2004, 23:27   #137
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Old 03-07-2004, 23:28   #138
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Why does it have that crappy white background? LOL
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Somewhere a True Believer is training to kill you. He is training with minimal food or water, in austere conditions, training day and night. The only thing clean on him is his weapon and he made his web gear. He doesn't worry about what workout to do - his ruck weighs what it weighs, his runs end when the enemy stops chasing him. This True Believer is not concerned about 'how hard it is;' he knows either he wins or dies. He doesn't go home at 17:00, he is home.
He knows only The Cause.

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Old 03-07-2004, 23:31   #139
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Give me time... some power crazy admin deleted my last one. I will eventually find the one that I had before...
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Old 03-07-2004, 23:34   #140
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I guess if I'm going to do things, I should learn to undo 'em too...naaaw!
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Somewhere a True Believer is training to kill you. He is training with minimal food or water, in austere conditions, training day and night. The only thing clean on him is his weapon and he made his web gear. He doesn't worry about what workout to do - his ruck weighs what it weighs, his runs end when the enemy stops chasing him. This True Believer is not concerned about 'how hard it is;' he knows either he wins or dies. He doesn't go home at 17:00, he is home.
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Old 03-08-2004, 00:01   #141
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Yet another lesson learned!

Who would have ever thought that a couple of SF guys and a fast internet connection could teach such a number of non-SF guys so many things?

I hope WM is watching The Sopranos closely for object lessons about messing with the Boss on his turf.

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Old 03-08-2004, 00:02   #142
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And on that note, I will retire. Good night for real.
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Somewhere a True Believer is training to kill you. He is training with minimal food or water, in austere conditions, training day and night. The only thing clean on him is his weapon and he made his web gear. He doesn't worry about what workout to do - his ruck weighs what it weighs, his runs end when the enemy stops chasing him. This True Believer is not concerned about 'how hard it is;' he knows either he wins or dies. He doesn't go home at 17:00, he is home.
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Old 03-08-2004, 00:05   #143
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Yet another lesson learned!

Who would have ever thought that a couple of SF guys and a fast internet connection could teach such a number of non-SF guys so many things?

I hope WM is watching The Sopranos closely for object lessons about messing with the Boss on his turf.

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Old 03-08-2004, 01:51   #144
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Dang

My power goes out for a couple hours, I miss the Sopranos season opener and you guys declaring open season on WM. Darn it.

As for a Martha Thread, Didn't you get your tail whooped good enough the other night NDD? Do you really need more humilation? Glutton!
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Old 03-08-2004, 03:54   #145
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all the popcorn is gone, and there is some purple fuzz and and a BB&B reciept on the floor. nothing to see here but alot of sleeping. moving along..
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Old 03-08-2004, 04:57   #146
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Re: Dang

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My power goes out for a couple hours, I miss the Sopranos season opener and you guys declaring open season on WM. Darn it.

FBI set a sting, rounded up every member of the crew. The rest of the season will be courtroom drama. heh...

The first episode is very slow. Hopefully, a healthy dose of Steve Buschemi will move things along. The man is a brilliant, yet creepy, actor.

You did not miss much. Hopefully, the second episode will have a bit more fluidity.

How can anyone declare war on Woobie when his avatar is such a morale booster? Well, maybe not here, but elsewhere.
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Old 03-08-2004, 09:38   #147
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Do you really think that the LT shouted "Shoot him!", to his NCO sitting well away in the back of a pick-up truck with their only weapon being a disassembled M-4? I really doubt it.

After reading all of the accounts, and speaking with one of the participants, I believe that the command was much more likely to have been just, "Get the gun!" to keep the deputy from taking the issued weapon. I think the "Shoot him!" claim was part of the cover-up attempt.



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I doubt they said "shoot him," but "get the gun" isn't that much better. I don't take either side in this case because I don't have enough info.

(Just some background:Godfather was SF (Reserves) and attended FBI Nat'l Academy before becoming Chief of Police in Boulder City, NV. Father was Lt. on local police, cousin was SAC ATF, and brother's are local Deputy Sheriff's.)

If all five of them were involved in this particular stop I don't feel they would have let it get to the point of shooting. But let's say it did get to that point.

If you hear "get the gun" it does not mean you have to shoot, but as a LE officer, prudence would dictate that you draw your weapon, right?

I think the officer may have let this get out of hand. The SF candidate('s) thought this was part of the Pineland exercise, right? That is the shame of it.

It may well be a warranted shooting based on the "get the gun" comments, however, this could have been handled much better by the officer.

Having a badge does not entitle a person to act like an a-hole. None of my relatives in LEO are like that, but unfortunately more than a few of their fellow officers are. I don't know the officer, but it smells like he may fall into a 10% category.

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