12-05-2009, 19:23
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Rucksacks
I don't know how many ton's the ole mountain would hold!
During Branch FTX at Pisgah, NC DOT put me on the scale's and issued me an over weight ticket.
Now beat that lie!!
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12-06-2009, 01:06
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#137
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Originally Posted by frostfire
Thank you for the input, fstbk272. You're the first who seems to prefer MOLLE to ALICE. If you can post a pic of that modification, that'd be great.
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Personally I never had a problem with either type of ruck. In my opinion it's all in adjusting and wearing the ruck properly (using the waist belt instead of shoulder straps to carry the weight). I'm not sure if this is what he did, but this is what I did, and it works great:
http://www.survivalistboards.com/sho...t=47472&page=2
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04-09-2010, 11:41
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#138
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I've been using the new IDF issue LAW bag. Internal frame, and can hold 120+ pnds with enough room for anything I could need and enough zippers to get at your things from multiple sides. Rucked over mountains for days with it and have nothing bad to say about them. I havn't been able to find places that sell them online though, amazing bags. If anyone knows a place to get a spare please let me know!
Side note: (I know its the wrong place to post it, but as long as I'm writing): I'm comfortable enough in my training to start rucking with a LG ALICE pack, when I get to SFAS will mods such as mixing and matching with MOLLE straps be tolerated? Or does it have to be ALICE through and through?
Appreciate the help.
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04-09-2010, 11:51
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#139
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Call me old-fashioned...
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04-09-2010, 11:52
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osprey 35 atmos
Anyone here familiar with it, or can offer me opinions.
I have tried one, the medium fits me perfectly. It has a camelback and ventilation. Both are important to me here in florida. I had never really thought about this whole thing a whole lot. But am doing a lot of walking lately and now find myself looking at doing the Fla Trail in the late fall. So I was up at Bill Jackson's looking at packs. Women's packs just are uncomfortable, this one seemed to fit my bill..but I wanted to ask the 'experts' here.
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04-09-2010, 12:15
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Originally Posted by ZonieDiver
Call me old-fashioned...
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Zonie,that just makes my day!..........
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04-09-2010, 13:24
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Originally Posted by Shock
... when I get to SFAS will mods such as mixing and matching with MOLLE straps be tolerated? Or does it have to be ALICE through and through?
Appreciate the help.
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When you get to SFAS you will be issued gear (MOLLE ruck and LBV included) from the bins at CIF.
Crip
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04-09-2010, 13:28
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ZonieDiver
Call me old-fashioned...
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Awwwwwwww . . . She's Bee-you-tee-full!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shock
I've been using the new IDF issue LAW bag. Internal frame, and can hold 120+ pnds with enough room for anything I could need and enough zippers to get at your things from multiple sides. . . .
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The hell with that! If I need 120+ pounds then I need a vehicle or we need to rethink the re-suppy plan. Maybe there's a good reason not to make everything as big as possible or to be able to load out every damn thing.
The solution doesn't alway have to be "More Stuff".
Last edited by Dozer523; 04-09-2010 at 13:35.
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04-09-2010, 18:56
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Originally Posted by Dozer523
Awwwwwwww . . . She's Bee-you-tee-full!
The hell with that! If I need 120+ pounds then I need a vehicle or we need to rethink the re-suppy plan. Maybe there's a good reason not to make everything as big as possible or to be able to load out every damn thing.
The solution doesn't alway have to be "More Stuff".
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Thanks, Teddy! I still "hump" with it! Dozer, I know "she" is beautiful! My point is/was that THAT is what Uncle Sam/Mother Army gives you - deal with it!I
It isn't about the greatest equipment, it is about doing the best you can with what you have. If you constantly hump the best ruck - but have to hump something of lesser quality - can you? Suck it up! Deal with it! SF needs people who are flexible and can adapt. If you have to have "thus and so" - it is my opinion that you are wasting everyone's time.
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04-10-2010, 11:20
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Originally Posted by armymom1228
osprey 35 atmos
Anyone here familiar with it, or can offer me opinions.
I have tried one, the medium fits me perfectly. It has a camelback and ventilation. Both are important to me here in florida. I had never really thought about this whole thing a whole lot. But am doing a lot of walking lately and now find myself looking at doing the Fla Trail in the late fall. So I was up at Bill Jackson's looking at packs. Women's packs just are uncomfortable, this one seemed to fit my bill..but I wanted to ask the 'experts' here.
AM
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I would hardly call myself an "expert" but Osprey packs are highly regarded in the backpacking world. Fit is very important and if that one works for you I don't think you can go wrong with it. I have an old Osprey that I'm very happy with.
The downside to that pack is that it's pretty small. If you're planning on doing more than a dayhike or maybe an overnight stay you'll probably wish you had something larger.
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04-12-2010, 15:31
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dozer523
Awwwwwwww . . . She's Bee-you-tee-full!
The hell with that! If I need 120+ pounds then I need a vehicle or we need to rethink the re-suppy plan. Maybe there's a good reason not to make everything as big as possible or to be able to load out every damn thing.
The solution doesn't alway have to be "More Stuff".
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Amazingly well said. Back in Delta Co. They lived by the term "death before dismount"
They always laughed at the guys in other anti-armor and cavscout units that had 4 rucks mounted on the outside of there trucks and they would be packed as full as could be.
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05-04-2010, 15:16
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Ruck related question:
When an ALICE frame pops a rivet what's the best method of repair? A new rivet? Nut and bolt?
Ek
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05-04-2010, 17:19
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Originally Posted by english kanigit
When an ALICE frame pops a rivet what's the best method of repair? A new rivet? Nut and bolt?
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Nut, bolt, and 2 washers (one each side) and a lil lock-tite...
Crip
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05-04-2010, 20:14
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Originally Posted by Surgicalcric
Nut, bolt, and 2 washers (one each side) and a lil lock-tite...
Crip
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a small locking nut
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05-04-2010, 20:21
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MtnGoat
a small locking nut
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Or a small locking nut...
Spotlight Ranger, lol.
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