07-24-2012, 21:54
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So he had body armor. Return gunfire could have
A. Struck him in the head and killed him
B. Caused him to turn the gun on himself (as many of these mass shooting suspects have done when confronted by police or gunfire)
C. Driven him out of the theater
D. Distracted him enough to allow more people to escape
E. Struck his weapon and created a malfunction, allowing you to close on him and finish it
Etc.....
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07-24-2012, 22:11
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#137
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brush Okie
They should have put a bullet in his face.
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Then they could have wiped up his blood and brains with copies of the Bill of Rights.
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07-24-2012, 22:49
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#138
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Originally Posted by SMP9168
"I don't understand why the police officers across this country don't stand up collectively and say we're going to go on strike," - Mayor Bloomberg
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No guns, no knives, no 16oz soft drinks...it will be Utopia!
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07-25-2012, 08:03
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Originally Posted by Sigaba
Then they could have wiped up his blood and brains with copies of the Bill of Rights.
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At that point, he'd still have the right to remain silent.
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07-25-2012, 10:41
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Reaper
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And some people take more effort to kill than others.
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I have come to realize in my short time on this planet, the propensity for life to continue amidst the harsh line between life and death; the desire to keep going and living in nature, even after much of the organisims (human or other) functions have shut down.
A prime example in this instance are the victims that were shot and injured, some of them in critical condition and left for dead in the shooters mind, that pulled through, albeit with help from the first responders and trauma teams.
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07-25-2012, 16:01
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This is truly a WTF story from the Aurora shooting.
It's one thing, during a severe crisis, if my guy secures our family and then leaves us because he is rushing the shooter. Personally, I totally support and would admire a man who did that. Even if he was taken down. He'd be my hero.
It's another thing entirely if he leaves his "loved ones", which in this case includes his girlfriend struggling with a 4-yo and a 4-mo old baby while everyone is trampling them, he runs to the car (yes, without them), he leaves the theater (yes, without them), and instead she is helped by a stranger, she gets shot, and he takes a bullet trying to guide her and the kids out.
If some "loved one" did that to me, I wouldn't even speak to him again, much less marry him.
Jamie Rohrs and girlfriend Patricia Legarreta, both 25, were at the theater with 2 small children (her 4yo daughter and their 4mo old son). Gunfire breaks out. She hits the floor with the babies, boyfriend Jamie hauls ass, and 19-yr old Jarell who was sitting nearby helps her out. Good Samaritan Jarell and Patricia both get shot (they're both ok). Loser Jamie pulls his head out of his ass, goes to hospital to find Patricia, proposes to her, and in the final WTF moment she says yes. The internet world today is saying NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/an-a...urora-theater/
Watch the video with Jamie/Patricia and watch her body language while he pours on the waterworks about why he jumped over the wall and ran, leaving her and the babies behind. I wanted to reach through the computer screen with a sledgehammer and smash his POS lying face.
Jarell, you my friend ROCK. May you have a long and blessed life.
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07-25-2012, 17:09
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Quote:
Originally Posted by orion5
This is truly a WTF story from the Aurora shooting.
It's one thing, during a severe crisis, if my guy secures our family and then leaves us because he is rushing the shooter. Personally, I totally support and would admire a man who did that. Even if he was taken down. He'd be my hero.
It's another thing entirely if he leaves his "loved ones", which in this case includes his girlfriend struggling with a 4-yo and a 4-mo old baby while everyone is trampling them, he runs to the car (yes, without them), he leaves the theater (yes, without them), and instead she is helped by a stranger, she gets shot, and he takes a bullet trying to guide her and the kids out.
If some "loved one" did that to me, I wouldn't even speak to him again, much less marry him.
Jamie Rohrs and girlfriend Patricia Legarreta, both 25, were at the theater with 2 small children (her 4yo daughter and their 4mo old son). Gunfire breaks out. She hits the floor with the babies, boyfriend Jamie hauls ass, and 19-yr old Jarell who was sitting nearby helps her out. Good Samaritan Jarell and Patricia both get shot (they're both ok). Loser Jamie pulls his head out of his ass, goes to hospital to find Patricia, proposes to her, and in the final WTF moment she says yes. The internet world today is saying NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/an-a...urora-theater/
Watch the video with Jamie/Patricia and watch her body language while he pours on the waterworks about why he jumped over the wall and ran, leaving her and the babies behind. I wanted to reach through the computer screen with a sledgehammer and smash his POS lying face.
Jarell, you my friend ROCK. May you have a long and blessed life.
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"I don't wanna live if they all die..."
Sooo...I guess trying to save them should have been a no brainer then huh?
Or maybe he was going to when he realized he left the stove on...
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07-25-2012, 17:12
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Originally Posted by fng13
TR- Thanks for the info. I suppose I over estimated the deformation getting hit would cause.
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The vest takes the energy from the round and spreads it out over a larger area. Human skin is very pliable.
Kind of like getting hit by a baseball, rather than a bullet.
It hurts, and leaves a helluva bruise, but it beats the alternative.
TR
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07-25-2012, 17:52
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Quote:
Originally Posted by orion5
Watch the video with Jamie/Patricia and watch her body language while he pours on the waterworks about why he jumped over the wall and ran, leaving her and the babies behind.
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What a tool.
I think they deserve each other.
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07-25-2012, 21:52
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Reaper
The vest takes the energy from the round and spreads it out over a larger area. Human skin is very pliable.
Kind of like getting hit by a baseball, rather than a bullet.
It hurts, and leaves a helluva bruise, but it beats the alternative.
TR
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TR
Thanks for the clarification.
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07-25-2012, 22:27
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http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/07/25...age-mailed-to/
So he sent a detailed journal to a psychiatrist but it got held in the mail.
It occurred to me while reading this that if his twisted little fantasy is to be the Joker. The Joker always ends up in the sanitarium. I wonder if based on his knowledge of neuroscience and I assume basic psychology this is all still part of his plan to plead insanity.
caveat; I may be giving him way to much credit
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07-26-2012, 03:55
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Obama urges tighter background checks on gun buyers after Aurora massacre
Obama urges tighter background checks on gun buyers after Aurora massacre
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/o...00.html?_esi=1
"............."I believe the majority of gun owners would agree that we should do everything possible to prevent criminals and fugitives from purchasing weapons; that we should check someone's criminal record before they can check out a gun seller; that a mentally unbalanced individual should not be able to get his hands on a gun so easily," he said. "These steps shouldn't be controversial. They should be common sense."................."
So just what defines mentally unbalanced? Could it include those being treated for PTSD? I've been saying for years that was one of the goals in the War on Guns.
"..........."When there is an extraordinarily heartbreaking tragedy like the one we saw, there's always an outcry immediately after for action. And there's talk of new reforms, and there's talk of new legislation," Obama said in his speech. "And too often, those efforts are defeated by politics and by lobbying and eventually by the pull of our collective attention elsewhere."
"And I, like most Americans, believe that the Second Amendment guarantees an individual the right to bear arms. And we recognize the traditions of gun ownership that passed on from generation to generation -— that hunting and shooting are part of a cherished national heritage," he said.................."
In other words "Lets keep our focus and we can get 'er done this time - well, maybe after the election".
Mr President, the 2nd Amendment is not about hunting, sports or shooting.
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07-26-2012, 04:09
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"............."I believe the majority of Americans would agree that we should do everything possible to prevent criminals and fugitives from voting and running for office; that we should check someone's record before they can run for office; that a mentally unbalanced individual should not be able to get his hands on a ballot so easily," he said. "These steps shouldn't be controversial. They should be common sense."................."
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07-26-2012, 05:58
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WARNING: I had to triple the tinfoil lining in my beret after reading this one.
It was staged by the FBI as a follow-up to Fast and Furious just in time for a vote on the UN small arms treaty.
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The mission, as we are now learning, was to cause as much terror and mayhem as possible, then to have that multiplied by the national media at exactly the right time leading up the UN vote next week on a global small arms treaty that could result in gun confiscation across America.
http://www.naturalnews.com/036536_Ja...#ixzz21iUI2WI5
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07-26-2012, 06:14
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Originally Posted by MR2
"............."I believe the majority of Americans would agree that we should do everything possible to prevent criminals and fugitives from voting and running for office; that we should check someone's record before they can run for office; that a mentally unbalanced individual should not be able to get his hands on a ballot so easily," he said. "These steps shouldn't be controversial. They should be common sense."................."
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Amen and Amen
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