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Old 09-10-2023, 10:35   #316
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When actions like this are taken, the tone of the response is very important.
People are motivated by fear.

That motivation can easily be used to turn herds in any direction.
2020 is evidence of that.

Yes, she is acting like a dictator.
But she doesn’t actually have the power to back it, unless people willingly submit.

It is important to frame this as an act of desperation, because they are losing.
Any time anybody rants concerning it, make sure to include that bit.

Tyrants losing power are always dangerous, but it is important to emphasize that they are losing.
That way, fear motivates people to be careful rather than submissive.

Take from them the power of fear.
Frame all of their actions as signs of weakness.


Hearts and minds.
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Old 09-10-2023, 19:09   #317
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When actions like this are taken, the tone of the response is very important.
People are motivated by fear.

That motivation can easily be used to turn herds in any direction.
2020 is evidence of that.

Yes, she is acting like a dictator.
But she doesn’t actually have the power to back it, unless people willingly submit.

It is important to frame this as an act of desperation, because they are losing.
Any time anybody rants concerning it, make sure to include that bit.

Tyrants losing power are always dangerous, but it is important to emphasize that they are losing.
That way, fear motivates people to be careful rather than submissive.

Take from them the power of fear.
Frame all of their actions as signs of weakness.


Hearts and minds.
Couldn’t have said it better!

When the “Revolution goes ‘live’, the people I worry about don’t scare me”

Just who, exactly, does this twat-waddle think is going to enforce her little tyrannical rules? Just what segment of the population will actually confiscate the guns? Just how exactly does she think this ends?

The answers are simple. She doesn’t think it will go that far. Hell, I doubt she’s actually thought about that at all…….

There are precisely 2 defining characteristics of a true American:

1) An American will give the shirt off his back to help people in need. We have literally buried our Fallen Soldiers on other people’s ground so we could free them from tyranny.

2) An American will tell anyone to Fuck Off who tries to rule us.
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Old 09-11-2023, 05:42   #318
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Swinging on Grateful Citizen's trapeze...
In addition to the previous squishy remarks of the County Sheriff:

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Bernalillo County District Attorney Sam Bregman, who once served as a Democratic party leader and was appointed by Lujan Grisham, on Saturday joined Albuquerque Mayor Tim Keller and Police Chief Harold Medina saying they wouldn’t enforce the order.

“As an officer of the court, I cannot and will not enforce something that is clearly unconstitutional,” said Bregman, the top prosecutor in the Albuquerque area. “This office will continue to focus on criminals of any age that use guns in the commission of a crime.”


Bernalillo County Sheriff John Allen said he was uneasy about how gun owners might respond.

“I am wary of placing my deputies in positions that could lead to civil liability conflicts,” Allen said, “as well as the potential risks posed by prohibiting law-abiding citizens from their constitutional right to self-defense.”
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More discussion over at Herschel's place at The Captain's Journal
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Old 09-11-2023, 06:40   #319
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When actions like this are taken, the tone of the response is very important.
People are motivated by fear.

That motivation can easily be used to turn herds in any direction.
2020 is evidence of that.

Yes, she is acting like a dictator.
But she doesn’t actually have the power to back it, unless people willingly submit.

It is important to frame this as an act of desperation, because they are losing.
Any time anybody rants concerning it, make sure to include that bit.

Tyrants losing power are always dangerous, but it is important to emphasize that they are losing.
That way, fear motivates people to be careful rather than submissive.

Take from them the power of fear.
Frame all of their actions as signs of weakness.


Hearts and minds.
Tyrants and Dictators will break the law(s) when there's an emergency;
They'll also create emergencies so they can break the law(s).
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Old 09-11-2023, 08:51   #320
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https://thepoliticsbrief.com/gun-own...ndment-rights/

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Judge enjoins governor’s order.
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Old 11-06-2025, 09:23   #323
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Maine Voters Approve Red Flag Gun Confiscation Law

Source link here at Ammoland.

Maine Voters Approve Red Flag Gun Confiscation Law Despite a (D)-Governor’s Objections

Maine voters have narrowly approved Question 2, a controversial ballot initiative that adds a new “red flag” gun confiscation process alongside the state’s existing “yellow flag” law—making Maine the 22nd state to adopt such legislation.

What the New Law Does
Under the new measure — which exists in addition to Maine’s yellow flag law — family or household members can now petition a judge directly to have someone’s firearms seized if they believe that person poses a danger to themselves or others. The law removes the requirement for a police officer or a mental health professional to first conduct an evaluation before any confiscation order is sought.

Under Maine’s existing yellow flag law, law enforcement must take a person into protective custody and obtain a behavioral health assessment before going to court — a system that remains in place. That system was described by supporters as “carefully crafted” to protect both public safety and due process.

Governor Janet Mills—a Democrat—joined top Republican leaders in opposing Question 2, warning that it “creates confusion” and “puts family members on the front lines of a dangerous situation.”

She told voters, “If there is a potentially dangerous situation, I want the police involved as soon as possible because it’s their responsibility, not yours, to deal with dangerous people.”

Mills also emphasized that Maine’s current system already works, citing over 1,100 successful petitions under the yellow flag law. “Our Maine law is successfully saving lives every day,” she said in September.

The Push Behind the Ballot
The campaign to pass Question 2 gained momentum after the 2023 mass shooting in Lewiston that left 18 people dead. Gun control groups and victims’ families blamed the tragedy on “missed warning signs” and argued that relatives of the gunman, Robert Card, lacked the legal ability to intervene.

“Something has to change,” said Arthur Barnard, whose son, Artie, was among those killed. He told reporters the new law would give families a “shortcut to a judge.”

Gun control advocates, led by groups like the Maine Gun Safety Coalition, hailed the result as a victory. Executive Director Nacole Palmer claimed, “Maine voters have taken the safety of our communities into our own hands by passing common-sense, responsible gun legislation that will save lives.”

Critics Warn of Rights Violations
Opponents—including the No on 2 Coalition, Gun Owners of Maine, and several law enforcement organizations—argue that the new law erodes due process and opens the door to false or malicious petitions. They stress that removing police oversight from the process undermines constitutional protections.

Gun Owners of Maine called the law a “red flag gun confiscation measure” and said in a post-election statement that it would continue to fight for the rights of responsible gun owners.

Even Governor Mills, who often supports firearm restrictions, cautioned that Maine’s previous law struck the right balance between safety and liberty. In her own words: “Question 2 would create a new, separate and confusing process that will undermine the effectiveness of the law and endanger public safety along with it.”

Broader Context

Four other New England states—Vermont, Rhode Island, Massachusetts, and Connecticut—already have similar “red flag” laws. Maine’s new red flag law, set to take effect in January 2026, allows family members to bypass police involvement and petition courts directly, but it does not eliminate the existing yellow flag system, which remains available to law enforcement.

Supporters claim it will prevent suicides and mass shootings. Critics counter that it strips citizens of their rights without the safeguards of arrest, trial, or conviction—an inversion of the American principle of “innocent until proven guilty.”

For many gun owners in Maine, the approval of Question 2 marks a troubling shift away from individual liberty toward a government process that can seize firearms based on accusations rather than crimes.

As the Gun Owners of Maine statement put it plainly: “We thank everyone who voted, donated, and stood up for our rights. The fight for freedom in Maine is far from over.”

This means Maine will now operate with two parallel systems — one initiated by law enforcement under the yellow flag law, and another initiated by family members under the new red flag law.
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