07-02-2007, 03:44
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Originally Posted by Gene Econ
jatax:
Not a bad price per day compared to others.
Still strange to me about the five to the chest and one in the head thing. Seems to me that if you have so little trust for your carbine and ammo that you would either get something you trusted or forget the chest shooting and just go straight for the head with five or ten rounds.
1K rounds a month is very sufficient IMHO. Very much common sense.
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Gene,
I do not persume to speak for Paul Howe but... I recall from reading his book that he developed the 5 to the chest and 1 to the head because he had "serviced" a few BG's with 2 to the chest and they just stood there wondering what and just happened. For all intensive purposes they were most likely clinically dead but due to the "Qat" they remained standing still posing a threat. As such he came up with the failure drill of 5 to the chest and 1 to the head. I believe he mentioned something about the ammo at the time as well... something about the SS109 is pinging in my brain.
Again that is what I recall from his book.
HTH
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07-02-2007, 07:57
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Gene, I do not persume to speak for Paul Howe but... I recall from reading his book that he developed the 5 to the chest and 1 to the head because he had "serviced" a few BG's with 2 to the chest and they just stood there wondering what and just happened. For all intensive purposes they were most likely clinically dead but due to the "Qat" they remained standing still posing a threat. As such he came up with the failure drill of 5 to the chest and 1 to the head. I believe he mentioned something about the ammo at the time as well... something about the SS109 is pinging in my brain.
I again that just what I recall from his book. HTH
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"Joe":
I understand his theory and reasoning. Just being devils advocate is all. Also being a wise guy. He, he, he. Not sure if anything will be effective if the guy is totally out of it on drugs.
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07-02-2007, 16:03
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Not sure if anything will be effective if the guy is totally out of it on drugs.
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I dunno Gene, your "5 to the head" technique sounds like it may do the job, unless you're fighting in Ichabod Crane's neck o' the woods. 
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07-02-2007, 17:12
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Expanding boattail could reduce that to 2 in the brain housing group - only because there's not much left to aim at with the last 3 rounds. With milspec ball - 3 to the dome should get it done too, and every 3rd or 4th BG is a freebie on your ammo supply - bonus BG's as it were. 
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07-02-2007, 17:42
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Shooting heads when both you and the head are moving is easier said than done.
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07-02-2007, 21:52
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Shooting heads when both you and the head are moving is easier said than done.
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Roger that but if you believe your ammo will not be effective in the chest (which I don't believe) then why waste your time? I am also being a Wisenheimer. Partially serious and partially not serious.
Blast the guy in the chest and let physics do the rest.
Has a ring to it, don't you think?
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07-02-2007, 21:55
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I dunno Gene, your "5 to the head" technique sounds like it may do the job, unless you're fighting in Ichabod Crane's neck o' the woods. |
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Ahhh, the Classics. Kind of like the old classic "use a bigger hammer", or "BFFI".
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07-02-2007, 22:27
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Some gear you may want to try out...
Clip-On Knee Pads
I loved them until, a buddy decided to borrow them. 
Stay safe.
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07-03-2007, 07:33
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Clip-On Knee Pads
I loved them until, a buddy decided to borrow them.
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Those look interesting. I'm using the Skydex ACU inserts and they are awesome!
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