01-20-2014, 11:17
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What is the ideal shape and size for a machete?
Blade forward: ie kukri
Straight: ie typical military issue
Blade back: ie katana, scimitar, cavalry sabre
For dealing with cutting force, chopping ability, multi purpose camping tool and for cross thread points. ..killing zombies.
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01-20-2014, 11:59
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Originally Posted by Max_Tab
What is the ideal shape and size for a machete?
Blade forward: ie kukri
Straight: ie typical military issue
Blade back: ie katana, scimitar, cavalry sabre
For dealing with cutting force, chopping ability, multi purpose camping tool and for cross thread points. ..killing zombies.
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Look at the Fox Knives Parangs and maceos... nicely weighted for multiple uses.
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01-20-2014, 13:09
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Originally Posted by Max_Tab
What is the ideal shape and size for a machete?
Blade forward: ie kukri
Straight: ie typical military issue
Blade back: ie katana, scimitar, cavalry sabre
For dealing with cutting force, chopping ability, multi purpose camping tool and for cross thread points. ..killing zombies.
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No mention of the Klingon Bat’leth sword ?
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01-20-2014, 13:50
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I like anything based on a falcata/kopis/kukri. There's reasons those designs are thousands of years old.
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01-20-2014, 14:36
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Depends on how long you need to swing it and what you want it to cut.
Some stuff is good for short duration work, others are more useful for long duration work.
From what I've learned on the internet, chopping knives have to be able to cut through steel reinforced concrete walls and still split a hair in two, the long way.
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01-20-2014, 14:42
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Depends on how long you need to swing it and what you want it to cut.
Some stuff is good for short duration work, others are more useful for long duration work.
From what I've learned on the internet, chopping knives have to be able to cut through steel reinforced concrete walls and still split a hair in two, the long way.
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Don't forget slice a tomato, and Shave.
I'm realistic, cutting brush, wood, flipping burgers, cooking on the blade if you don't have a pan, digging if needed, deadman snow anchor in the winter and poking things. A general all around camp tool.
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01-20-2014, 14:47
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Don't forget alive a tomato, and Shave.
I'm realistic, cutting brush, wood, flipping burgers, cooking on the blade if you door have a pan, digging if needed, deadman snow anchor in the winter and poking things. A general all around camp tool.
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If you cook on your blade, it'll probably not hold an edge until you get it retempered based on the fact it'll 'normalize' the steel by going through slow cooling, essentially turning it into 'slab' steel.
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01-20-2014, 15:01
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As referenced in another thread my daughter bought me this for fathers day.
I hate Bear but i was surprised to like the feel of it. I've used a traditional machete a lot, and a cold steel kukri. I like the heavier forward blade on the kukri which is reminiscent of an axe. I haven't used the bear gryls one yet, but as stated it has a really good feel to it.
TS the Klingon blade is what i use for my EDC.
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01-20-2014, 15:16
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I saw a 24 inch sawback straight blade at a local store. Thought about picking it up but wanted to get other opinions on it.
Yea or Nay ????
Thoughts ....
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01-20-2014, 16:32
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I saw a 24 inch sawback straight blade at a local store. Thought about picking it up but wanted to get other opinions on it.
Yea or Nay ????
Thoughts ....
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Machete good saw back does not work very well. We had some agents order some and they did not cut for shit. Hard to put downward pressure due to the blade.
I still have mine that was issued to me in panama. It has been all the world with me and still doing fine....
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01-20-2014, 16:37
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I saw a 24 inch sawback straight blade at a local store. Thought about picking it up but wanted to get other opinions on it.
Yea or Nay ????
Thoughts ....
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You'd be better off with the Klingon Bat’leth sword........
I'd go for a nice kukri......
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01-20-2014, 17:14
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Machete good saw back does not work very well. We had some agents order some and they did not cut for shit. Hard to put downward pressure due to the blade.
I still have mine that was issued to me in panama. It has been all the world with me and still doing fine....
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Thanks B. That helps.
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You'd be better off with the Klingon Bat’leth sword........
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Roger that, sawback machete bad, Bat'leth GOOD ....
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01-20-2014, 18:25
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It was funny watching three agents trying to chop and saw some shit in the bush. When one tried to use the saw he was rubbing the teeth and getting no where. He finally put his hand on top and all we heard was OH Shit $&@&($&@@ and a few more. He not only put his hand on top but he started sawing and not moving his hand. All that saved him from more stitches was his glove. I think it took 15-20 stiches to close his hand up...... Was funny and part of it was not. That was a very short Personal Recovery exercise.......
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01-21-2014, 07:25
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The latin (issue style) machete seems to me, to be about the most versatile. Many of the others have a more purposed-designed nature.
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01-21-2014, 07:39
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I use a Martindale 18" machete quite regularly in thick brush and it holds an edge quite well. I usually touch up the blade at the end of the day with a canoe file or mill file (depending on how much it was used). Machetespecialists.com has quite an array and you can break types down by category, use ,etc. There are more expensive machetes out there, but I figured the Martindale has been used all over the world for quite a long time, so that has some merit. FWIW the Imacasa & Tramontina machetes are also good, but I found that the blades needed more work during the day.
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