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		|  04-14-2004, 22:16 | #1 |  
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			Ok, I went to the website and read.  Now what's the downside and the risk?  I've been hearing about this for a while and I think I need to know how it works.  On both ends.  It may solve a problem I have.
		 
				__________________Somewhere a True Believer is training to kill you. He is training with minimal food or water, in austere conditions, training day and night. The only thing clean on him is his weapon and he made his web gear. He doesn't worry about what workout to do - his ruck weighs what it weighs, his runs end when the enemy stops chasing him. This True Believer is not concerned about 'how hard it is;' he knows either he wins or dies. He doesn't go home at 17:00, he is home.
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		|  04-14-2004, 22:21 | #2 |  
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			NDD:
 Works fine, I use it.
 
 Be aware that unless you pay extra for it, once the money is sent, it is gone.
 
 Very little interest in helping you recover, even if you are ripped off.
 
 That is the only downside I have seen, other than a small transaction fee for the recipient.
 
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		|  04-14-2004, 22:23 | #3 |  
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			Sounds good.  I've been trying to find an easy way for clients to pay for reports, this might be it.  Thanks.
		 
				__________________Somewhere a True Believer is training to kill you. He is training with minimal food or water, in austere conditions, training day and night. The only thing clean on him is his weapon and he made his web gear. He doesn't worry about what workout to do - his ruck weighs what it weighs, his runs end when the enemy stops chasing him. This True Believer is not concerned about 'how hard it is;' he knows either he wins or dies. He doesn't go home at 17:00, he is home.
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		|  04-14-2004, 22:30 | #4 |  
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			What TR said.
 I use it as well.  I have had no problems thus far.
 
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		|  04-14-2004, 22:31 | #5 |  
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			Thanks.  I'm going to play with it and talk to them and see what they think.  I'm tired of being payed with chickens.
		 
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		|  04-15-2004, 06:16 | #6 |  
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			Concur with TR's post. I've used it about 15 or so times with no issues.
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		|  04-15-2004, 06:38 | #7 |  
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			My wife has been using it for her business for several years now.  The few problems she's had have been solved with several phone calls to them.  They have an arbitration process that seems pretty fair, though somewhat slow.
		 
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		|  04-15-2004, 08:12 | #8 |  
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			As much as they take out, buy your own software and set up a website. I can recommend a webmaster.
		 
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		|  04-15-2004, 17:59 | #9 |  
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			We have used the arbitration process on an ebay purchase that was misrepresented.  While she may have not have gotton 100% of what she wanted, the seller to pay for the return frieght, we did get a refund on the purchase price itself.  The process was relatively smooth and handled in a reasonable time frame (a couple weeks).
		 
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		|  05-02-2004, 07:50 | #10 |  
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			Thank you for contacting PayPal. 
Unfortunately, we are not yet providing services in the country in  
which you reside. Establishing our service in each new country involves complex changes due to different regulations in each country. We are working hard and look forward to expanding our services to additional countries in the future.
 
At this time, membership is available to residents of the following  
countries: 
 
*Anguilla *Argentina *Australia *Austria *Belgium *Brazil *Canada *Chile *China *Costa Rica *Denmark *Dominican Republic *Finland *France*Germany *Greece *Hong Kong *Iceland *India *Ireland *Israel *Italy *Jamaica *Japan *Luxembourg *Mexico *Netherlands *New Zealand *Norway *Portugal *Singapore *South Korea *Spain *Sweden *Switzerland * Taiwan *United Kingdom
 
Click https://www.paypal.com/intlavail  or copy and paste the link into the address bar for more information on Non-U.S. availability. 
 
I understand your frustration regarding this matter and apologize for any inconvenience it might have caused you. 
 
Sincerely, 
Lori 
PayPal Customer Service 
PayPal, an eBay Company 
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Lori, 
You have no idea how much you have inconvenienced me and you can't begin to understand my frustration.
 
DAMN!  And people wonder what made Charlie Whitman climb the tower.
 
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		|  05-02-2004, 08:59 | #11 |  
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			Can you use a US Bank, CCD, and drop address?
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		|  05-02-2004, 09:01 | #12 |  
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			I'm working on a cover as we speak.  It'll take a while, but I'll get 'er done.
 I don't care much for Lori.
 
				__________________Somewhere a True Believer is training to kill you. He is training with minimal food or water, in austere conditions, training day and night. The only thing clean on him is his weapon and he made his web gear. He doesn't worry about what workout to do - his ruck weighs what it weighs, his runs end when the enemy stops chasing him. This True Believer is not concerned about 'how hard it is;' he knows either he wins or dies. He doesn't go home at 17:00, he is home.
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		|  05-02-2004, 09:04 | #13 |  
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			As long as the address is accepted by the credit card company and or the bank, you should be GTG.
 Maybe add it as a secondary mailing address?
 
 Only issue is that most vendors you buy from will want to ship only to the address Paypal has on file.
 
 Put Lori on The List as an enemy of The People and offer her a free vacation to exotic Colombia.
 
 TR
 
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