TSA, raising the bar on STUPID

[orion5]

Originally Posted by Team Sergeant

TSA: Hawaii agent made mistake about breast pump
Published March 03, 2012
| Associated Press


The TSA tells KITV the agent at the Kauai airport mistakenly told Amy Strand she could only bring the pump onboard if the bottles contained milk.

I guess I need to check youtube to see if there is a TSA training video for teaching agents to drink breast milk bottles to ensure the ladies are compliant.

[cbtengr]

Now I am really confused, a jar with a cupcake in it is confiscated, something about potentially hazardous frosting not being allowed on planes.

But on the other hand an empty container meant to hold breast milk has to be filled in order for the passenger to board a plane. I thought that we had the means to do some sort of a sniff test in order to detect explosives, the cupcake should have been cleared, just put it on the line that checks shoes and underwear for explosives.

My question is does TSA possess the means at all airports to confirm whether or not a liquid in any container is actually breast milk? Say what you will about Ron Paul but one of his planks is abolishing the TSA.

[dr. mabuse]

Terrorist to Pilot: " If you do not open the cabin door, I will start squirting breast milk into peoples eyes, one passenger every half hour until you do. I will then escalate and make the crew drink formula!!!"

For those of you that are parents and have every tasted formula...pretty rough.

[PedOncoDoc]

Originally Posted by dr. mabuse

For those of you that are parents and have every tasted formula...pretty rough.

I have don memories of having my interns do "taste tests" of the formulas and oral medications they were asking the kids to take. Their faces were priceless.

TSA is criminally inept. If phyisicians practiced their trade with the same effort and skill they would immediately have their licenses revoked.

[greenberetTFS]

TSA recruits their first class personal at Micky D's...... The hamburger flipper is always their first choice,however the manager is their last choice because he/she couldn't make it on the outside in a regular job so he/she is not desirable candidates ...

Big Teddy

[Ret10Echo]

Originally Posted by PedOncoDoc

TSA is criminally inept. If phyisicians practiced their trade with the same effort and skill they would immediately have their licenses revoked.

They got themselves ORGANIZED Doc.... Union not going to lose that many dues-payers.....

“We are obviously thrilled with the election results, but more importantly are delighted that the transportation security officers now will have the full union representation they rightly deserve,” AFGE President John Gage said in a statement.

Oh, and I believe the whole thread should actually state "TSA, LOWERING the bar on STUPID". Proving that it isn't really that hard.

[Badger52]

Originally Posted by Ret10Echo

They got themselves ORGANIZED Doc.... Union not going to lose that many dues-payers.....

They'll get some small amount of due$. The bigger loss is that someone for the Guv ink'd a Negotiated Agreement in the first place. That way John "Wish I Was Hoffa" Gage and the rest of the AFGE national-level thugs get to count anyone not supervisory as part of "the bargaining unit." That statistic is at times more important to them in terms of elbowing clout, than that each person be a dues-paying member (which they still can't be coerced to pay).

Vomit.

[kingfish]

Anyone ever been through an airport where screeners were contracted vice government TSA employees? Big difference, but I have very limited experience here. Attitude and approach to their jobs was 180degrees out from the government screeners. I'm not saying contractors are the way to go, just that the thought of losing one's job for poor performance is a real motivator. Government + Unions = FAILURE.

[Richard]

From what I've seen, read, and experienced, the TSA and the flying public are both made up of a significant percentage of idiots...and it is often the results of a 'perfect storm' situation of these idiots coming together which makes the news reports.

And so it goes...

Richard

[CloseDanger]

I had to snicker at "A perfect Storm" analogy.

TSA guy Bob does explain a'lot of what is happening there. Presents a compelling argument.

To be honest, they have been good with me when I made mistakes, but I do see why it is a hated agency. Just don't take it out on the Pawns.

[BOfH]

Who woulda thunk?

In response to the 9/11 attacks, many airline pilots have been trained, deputized as federal law-enforcement officers and armed since 2003. Now the Obama administration wants to gut the program with a 50 percent cut in funding.

In defense of the cut, Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano recently told Congress the program is not “risk based,” that pilots aren’t the last line of defense and that we can trust the cockpit door to keep us safe.

Sorry: If we’re going to cut $12 million from air security, there are much better places to go. This program is efficient, effective and cheap.

Arming pilots is not a new idea: Airline pilots flew armed in large numbers until 1987 with no recorded problems. When the federal government disarmed pilots in 1987, many predicted cockpit-takeover attempts. Sadly, one of those Cassandras was the late Victor Saracini, who captained United Flight 175 on 9/11; his Boeing 767 was hijacked and crashed into the South Tower of the World Trade Center.
It was the disarming of pilots in 1987 that inevitably allowed the 9/11 cockpit takeovers.
In the runup to the 2003 re-arming of pilots, critics baldly predicted we’d have accidental shootings and other safety problems. Hasn’t happened: Though large numbers of pilots stepped forward to attend training (on their own time and expense), the program has a safety record that rivals any law enforcement agency’s in the country.
Armed, trained pilots protect the airplane from the best tactical location on the plane: behind the reinforced cockpit door. These volunteers protect an enormous number of flights for a tiny fraction of the cost of the federal air marshals: $15 per flight vs. at least $2,500 a flight for a marshal.
Napolitano offered the post-9/11 strengthened cockpit door as a reason armed pilots are no longer needed. But the doors were armored before the first pilots were armed in April 2003: Again, it’s cheap added security, which many passengers find reassuring. (After all, they’re already trusting us with their lives.)
Terrorists and security experts know there’s no such thing as an impenetrable door. Armor will slow break-ins, but it’s foolish to blithely assume that it will stop them.
Most ridiculous is Napolitano’s claim that she wants to move to a “risk based” system. This, from the woman who has under her wing the Transportation Security Administration — which regularly targets grandmothers in wheelchairs and 4-year-olds afraid to leave their mothers’ side for government searches. Meanwhile, the TSA “system” allowed the shoe bomber and the underwear bomber onto planes.
The administration’s cuts — which are focused on the training programs — would likely reduce the number of armed pilots by more than half. We’d be far better off trimming the TSA behemoth. This doesn’t look like “risk-based” budgeting but the same ideology that disarmed pilots in the first place.
Arming airline pilots is effective, safe and extremely inexpensive. How many government programs can make that claim?
The US military stands ready to destroy an unarmed airliner that has been commandeered, killing everyone board. How can government officials support that potential killing of innocents while at the same time denying those passengers the final line of defense that could save their lives — armed pilots?

Tracy W. Price has been an airline pilot for over 25 years.

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