08-20-2011, 09:51
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I have to ask ...
You profile says you're from Pennsylvania, home of the greatest D-I college football coach. Care explaining your above statement? 
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08-20-2011, 20:04
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The irony in this whole scandal revolves around Paul Dee.
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But there is just SO much irony... he can't have it all!
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08-21-2011, 00:09
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You profile says you're from Pennsylvania, home of the greatest D-I college football coach.
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Bobby Bowden's from PA?
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08-21-2011, 08:04
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Originally Posted by Susa
I feel your pain...I come from a Trojan (USC) family so I know what it's like to have "issues" with the athletic department!
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Eek!
GO BEARS
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08-21-2011, 09:47
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Bobby Bowden's from PA?
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Out of curiosity, what is your definition of greatest?
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08-21-2011, 11:12
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Eek!
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You guys have had a pretty good team. However, I am more fearful of Oregon or Stanford! 
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08-21-2011, 11:22
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My apologies to JoePa for that cheap-shot. He's still alive...? 
I don't have an answer to your question, but having the 'most wins' wouldn't be part of the criteria. Hanging around piling up 'W's' long after Coordinators and position coaches have become accountable for gameplanning and recruiting... I don't think that adds to one's 'greatness'.
I'm partial to guys like LaVell Edwards. Coaches that do more w/less. His BYU teams consistently gave bigger/stronger/faster opponents from major conferences fits. Jim Harbaugh did the same thing recently at Stanford.
Best football coaches of all-time? IMO, the two Bill's: Belichick and Walsh.
Last edited by Delta-1-Bravo; 08-21-2011 at 11:36.
Reason: changed "responsible" to "accountable"
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08-21-2011, 11:59
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My apologies to JoePa for that cheap-shot. He's still alive...?
I don't have an answer to your question, but having the 'most wins' wouldn't be part of the criteria. Hanging around piling up 'W's' long after Coordinators and position coaches have become accountable for gameplanning and recruiting... I don't think that adds to one's 'greatness'.
I'm partial to guys like LaVell Edwards. Coaches that do more w/less. His BYU teams consistently gave bigger/stronger/faster opponents from major conferences fits. Jim Harbaugh did the same thing recently at Stanford.
Best football coaches of all-time? IMO, the two Bill's: Belichick and Walsh. |
Now give me your definition of "alive"  He's still roaming the sidelines (most of the times, in-between hospital stays), if that's what you're asking.
The reason I asked is because it's a subjective term and sadly college football uses wins as the definition of success. Kind of like how most Americans equate money with success. We could split this conversation off into one of a million sub-sections: Greatest Coach Based on Numbers Alone ( regardless of how he got them), Coach Who Did the Most With Least, Coach Who Had the Greatest Impact on a Program ...
I have a respect for coaches such as Paterno, Frank Beamer, John Gagliardi and Chris Ault, who are able to remain with a program for as long as they have in a "win now or else" atmosphere. Not all have been successful their entire career (win-wise), but they've obviously done something right to stick around.
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08-21-2011, 21:25
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I have a respect for coaches such as Paterno, Frank Beamer, John Gagliardi and....
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I am biased but will offer up mad respect for Bobby Bowden for his actions to support Marshall in his WVU days.... and the other stuff.
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08-22-2011, 07:05
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I have to ask ...
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Well I am from Pennsylvania but my family is not. Father from Tuscumbia, grew up going all over the south. A lot of relatives all over the south, primarily Alabama and Georgia. Grew up on the Tide.
I don't think just being at the same school for 100 years constitutes being the greatest football coach. FYI Alabama has 13 national championships (some contested), Penn State has 2.
Penn state was led to the championship by Joe Pa but the Bear led the Tide to 6 national championships in 25 years.
Joe Paterno hardly even does any coaching he is just a figurehead they keep walking up and down the sidelines. Sometimes they even use him as a tackling dummy
Besides my loyalty to the Tide I went to college at Pitt. You won't find me rooting for blue and white.
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08-22-2011, 07:24
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Besides my loyalty to the Tide I went to college at Pitt.
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This explains much.
WE ARE- PENN STATE!
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08-22-2011, 14:57
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ROLL TIDE
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08-22-2011, 19:24
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Besides my loyalty to the Tide I went to college at Pitt.
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The first step to recovery is admitting you have a problem.
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08-22-2011, 20:09
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Gig'em #8 Texas A&M- going to be a good season
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08-22-2011, 20:18
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This is the year that the Arizona Wildcats go to the Rose Bowl. You heard it here first.
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