11-19-2020, 11:07
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A Cautionary Note to Antifa and BLM Thugs Contemplating 'Civil War'
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To elaborate further on the militia movement, as well as to provide a cautionary note to those on the Left planning violent insurrection in the US, I asked a pal to weigh in on his thoughts and direct experiences with American militias. He is former Army special forces and a former CIA operative/contractor who has fought on the ground in insurgencies all over the world throughout his career. He is in and around the militia movement and knows a LOT of people therein, as well as their motivations, training, experience, etc. Here is what the man known to a select few as “Spear One” had to say:
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Interesting take...
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11-19-2020, 14:27
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I’ve said this before...this bogeyman of “white supremacists” being everywhere is really a myth in my personal experience. No doubt there are outliers. But, I have shared sociables with made men in the mafia, patched-in 1%ers and other fairly rough types and have yet to knowingly bump into a true “white supremacist.” Yes, there are bigots out there. But, rampaging gangs of formidable neo-nazis organizations - have not experienced it.
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“Except for truly fringe elements in tiny numbers that are massively exaggerated by the Democrat-media complex, they are NOT “white supremacists and Nazis” but rather are well-disciplined and well-trained patriots who love and respect the Constitution and our Republic, and who are not about to let the Left destroy everything dear to them. Many are veterans and current or former law enforcement officers, too. Others are simply concerned citizens, avid hunters, and normal Americans who are aghast at the lawlessness displayed in America’s cities this past year by Antifa and BLM hoodlums.“
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11-19-2020, 16:25
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I’ve said this before...this bogeyman of “white supremacists” being everywhere is really a myth in my personal experience. No doubt there are outliers. But, I have shared sociables with made men in the mafia, patched-in 1%ers and other fairly rough types and have yet to knowingly bump into a true “white supremacist.” Yes, there are bigots out there. But, rampaging gangs of formidable neo-nazis organizations - have not experienced it.
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“Except for truly fringe elements in tiny numbers that are massively exaggerated by the Democrat-media complex, they are NOT “white supremacists and Nazis” but rather are well-disciplined and well-trained patriots who love and respect the Constitution and our Republic, and who are not about to let the Left destroy everything dear to them. Many are veterans and current or former law enforcement officers, too. Others are simply concerned citizens, avid hunters, and normal Americans who are aghast at the lawlessness displayed in America’s cities this past year by Antifa and BLM hoodlums.“
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Ditto as well, except for those Italian guys. The handful I've run across (and then usually run) are so foaming at the mouth "out there" that they are an extreme right-wing version of an Antifan, and hate clouds their thinking. They tend to do really stupid stuff that illuminates them and gets them vacuumed up.
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11-19-2020, 16:35
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Originally Posted by Badger52
The handful I've run across (and then usually run) are so foaming at the mouth "out there" that they are an extreme right-wing version of an Antifan, and hate clouds their thinking. They tend to do really stupid stuff that illuminates them and gets them vacuumed up.
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Thank heaven they self-select.
The idiocy on both extremes is currently pronounced - and those of us caught in the middle often get bashed by both extremes.
The nation needs more clear thinking folks that are not as easily manipulated by hate. Unfortunately, politics has turned extreme and the working/producing citizens of the USA pay the bills for all that stupidity.
The media is generally fanning the flames.
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11-19-2020, 16:44
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I had in-laws who were extremely racist....couldn't get through a two minute conversation without them dropping the "N-word". Both father and son espoused support for the Klan.
I moved my (now ex) wife and children 600 miles away from the in-laws because I didn't want them to grow up around such ignorance.
As far as the rest of the article this tidbit:
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Large numbers of retired Special Operations Forces (or those with expired terms of service) that are prepared and trained to organize and lead Civil Militia forces.
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Not the first place I've read that, was also told that directly by a QP back in the 80's.
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11-19-2020, 18:31
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Originally Posted by Badger52
Ditto as well, except for those Italian guys. The handful I've run across (and then usually run) are so foaming at the mouth "out there" that they are an extreme right-wing version of an Antifan, and hate clouds their thinking. They tend to do really stupid stuff that illuminates them and gets them vacuumed up.
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I have run into a few as well, I have always wondered if many of them are not working for the .gov. Jim and Nancy come to mind, both came across as mentally ill, they did plenty of stupid stuff, but they never got vacuumed up. However others in their circle were vacuumed up. The group they were involved in was ARM/American Resistance Movement, who's membership was primarily adolescents who made UW videos. Many of these people were rolled up by Ty Cescek in a Time Magazine OP. Jim and Nancy skipped the Time Magazine op. Jim continues too reinvent himself and Nancy won a huge law suit against a city back East.
Closer to home, a person started a State Militia around 2008 when Zero took office. The initial intent was pretty much a club that met up from time to time to shoot guns. It never really took off, and it blew up when some wanted to sport official uniforms rather than the modest approach of hiding in plan sight.
Neither was organized like Antifa, BLM, DSA, etc. and neither posed a real threat to anyone but themselves.
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11-19-2020, 19:22
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ANTIFA is a paramilitary org., they operate within the DNC. The DNC and NYC leaders are PR. Now, do the math on who fired 81MM at the UN 1960's? These communist are not playing, they intent to overthrow the status quo.
You would think a counter org would adjust that attitude in one or two encounters. Especially, if you know the players.
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11-19-2020, 19:32
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The good news fairy is there are people like me. Disillusioned by my life and career after leaving the Army and the things I thought I served 21 (plus 19 more) some odd years defending; even if only an idea on a postcard from some sunny beautiful place to live and call home.
If these punks think they are any match for an old broken man who’s dedicated his entire life to providing freedom and quality of life to others less fortunate, than I wish them the very best I can offer. I really do...right up and until the point where magic happens and mushrooms sprout from their brains.
As I have said, they are few and we are many. When push comes to shove they will realize they have pissed up the wrong tree of life and blood will be spilled if that becomes necessary. The tree will be fertilized regardless of which tyrants and their followers choose to rise up against freedom.
I swear on this day going forward I did not live my life only to give up and surrender to popularism and social justice as defined by the likes of Soros, Zuckerberg, Gates, and Jack Dorsey. They do not own me!
P.S. I assure you that those in the media who have colluded with the enemy will not be given reprieve from their crimes.
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11-20-2020, 08:43
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Originally Posted by Old Dog New Trick
The good news fairy is there are people like me. Disillusioned by my life and career after leaving the Army and the things I thought I served 21 (plus 19 more) some odd years defending; even if only an idea on a postcard from some sunny beautiful place to live and call home.
If these punks think they are any match for an old broken man who’s dedicated his entire life to providing freedom and quality of life to others less fortunate, than I wish them the very best I can offer. I really do...right up and until the point where magic happens and mushrooms sprout from their brains.
As I have said, they are few and we are many. When push comes to shove they will realize they have pissed up the wrong tree of life and blood will be spilled if that becomes necessary. The tree will be fertilized regardless of which tyrants and their followers choose to rise up against freedom.
I swear on this day going forward I did not live my life only to give up and surrender to popularism and social justice as defined by the likes of Soros, Zuckerberg, Gates, and Jack Dorsey. They do not own me!
P.S. I assure you that those in the media who have colluded with the enemy will not be given reprieve from their crimes.
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Amen
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11-20-2020, 10:09
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The best line in that entire article manages to condense the entire 244 years of American history into what one of our recently black-helicoptered contributors would say was "a Bumper Sticker"
“One Oath to Rule Them All”
I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same
“One Oath to Rule Them All” - The Precious.
One oath to rule them all, One oath to find them, One oath to bring them all, and in the darkness bind them.
That is some bumper sticker level shit right there.
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11-19-2020, 19:46
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Thank you for this.
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11-19-2020, 22:28
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United States of America, I do not believe it will go quietly into the night. Don't believe what you read there are many many Americans out here.
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