08-07-2020, 15:00
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A good read FP thanks for posting.
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Agree; thanks. Good primer.
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It's only when we apply reductionism to the definition that we have a chance to defeat them.
Antifa = terrorist organization = enemy combatants.
Let loose the dogs of war.
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So is that the part where we get to shoot them now? I've always wanted to collect on a vendetta for a girlfriend that had a horrible hand injury from a shard of plate glass during one of their forefathers' bombings at the Farben building...
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08-07-2020, 15:28
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Originally Posted by Badger52
Agree; thanks. Good primer.
So is that the part where we get to shoot them now? I've always wanted to collect on a vendetta for a girlfriend that had a horrible hand injury from a shard of plate glass during one of their forefathers' bombings at the Farben building...

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I always thought throwing them from helicopters was a nice touch.
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08-08-2020, 05:39
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Lock them up in a hard labor camp and feed them soviet style rations w/propaganda on speakers just for one month see if they want that type of thing here in America
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08-08-2020, 08:42
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Lock them up in a hard labor camp and feed them soviet style rations w/propaganda on speakers just for one month see if they want that type of thing here in America
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Oh, I believe that those little commies really do want that stuff here in America...they want that stuff really, really badly...
...they just envision...
You and I, and all freedom loving, Constitution loving, firearm owning, America loving, capitalists, interred in those camps for re-education once they have smashed, destroyed, burned and stolen all that folks have worked hard to create. You’ve gotta crack a few eggs to make an omelet Komrade...
The ANTIFA are essentially the same little commie shit stains - all of the same ilk - from around the world. There is no reasoning with them.
ETA a couple of definitions:
Domestic terrorism: Violent, criminal acts committed by individuals and/or groups to further ideological goals stemming from domestic influences, such as those of a political, religious, social, racial, or environmental nature. FBI
Another definition:
Domestic terrorism means “activities that--
(A) involve acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State;
(B) appear to be intended--
(i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population;
(ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or
(iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping; and
(C) occur primarily within the territorial jurisdiction of the United States.”(18 USCS § 2331)
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08-08-2020, 09:46
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Originally Posted by tonyz
Oh, I believe that those little commies really do want that stuff here in America...they want that stuff really, really badly...
...they just envision...
You and I, and all freedom loving, Constitution loving, firearm owning, America loving, capitalists, interred in those camps for re-education once they have smashed, destroyed, burned and stolen all that folks have worked hard to create. You’ve gotta crack a few eggs to make an omelet Komrade...
The ANTIFA are essentially the same little commie shit stains - all of the same ilk - from around the world. There is no reasoning with them.
ETA a couple of definitions:
Domestic terrorism: Violent, criminal acts committed by individuals and/or groups to further ideological goals stemming from domestic influences, such as those of a political, religious, social, racial, or environmental nature. FBI
Another definition:
Domestic terrorism means “activities that--
(A) involve acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State;
(B) appear to be intended--
(i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population;
(ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or
(iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping; and
(C) occur primarily within the territorial jurisdiction of the United States.”(18 USCS § 2331)
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Just listened to a discussion on Hayek's "The Road to Serfdom" given by Lawrence H. White Professor of Economics at George Mason University.
Unfortunately Hillsdale College that hosted it only made it available on THAT video platform.
Love the historical context and the laydown noting that Hayek wrote the book back in the 1940's using the Soviets, National Socialists and Fascist Italy as the examples.
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08-08-2020, 10:40
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Just listened to a discussion on Hayek's "The Road to Serfdom" given by Lawrence H. White Professor of Economics at George Mason University.
Unfortunately Hillsdale College that hosted it only made it available on THAT video platform.
Love the historical context and the laydown noting that Hayek wrote the book back in the 1940's using the Soviets, National Socialists and Fascist Italy as the examples.
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Hillsdale College does share a decent amount of interesting materials.
It seems that mob rule inevitably results in central planners, often a tyrannical elite, imposing policies on the masses. The central planners creation is often equal misery for all but the elite.
The masses tend to forget that BIG.Gov feeds itself and the elites first...and the masses always get the leftovers.
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08-08-2020, 12:54
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ANTIFA ?
Communist, Socialist, all the same BS. They can not be reasoned with the ONLY solution is to neutralize them. Peaceful separation is not possible now. There can be only 1 winner in this ideologic war. Start at the Top & work down to eliminate the money that supports this movement. George Soros, et al.
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08-08-2020, 13:17
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Originally Posted by tonyz
Hillsdale College does share a decent amount of interesting materials.
It seems that mob rule inevitably results in central planners, often a tyrannical elite, imposing policies on the masses. The central planners creation is often equal misery for all but the elite.
The masses tend to forget that BIG.Gov feeds itself and the elites first...and the masses always get the leftovers.
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One of the concepts that stuck was the unrealistic belief of the "benevolent taskmaster" and how the reality is that the worst version of that person will assume the position of power.....
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08-08-2020, 14:41
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Originally Posted by 7624U
Lock them up in a hard labor camp and feed them soviet style rations w/propaganda on speakers just for one month see if they want that type of thing here in America
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They won't get that treatment till they have won and are no longer of any use to the new Dear Leader.
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08-08-2020, 18:14
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These nutty leftists can cause destruction, but they lack the ability to transition and consolidate any gained power because of the nature of the existing economy.
Specifically, transportation and insurance.
They always go after densely populated areas because of friendly/weak local leaders and the anonymity of crowds.
The handful of adventures into less densely populated areas have been severe failures (but have made for some entertaining videos).
Densely populated areas are completely dependent on surrounding areas for everything which, in turn, requires transportation.
When these areas become unsafe, transportation of goods diminishes.
There are already trucking companies who are planning to cease service anywhere that the police are subject to defunding.
They don't want to risk drivers/equipment/cargo and don't want to pay all the elevated insurance costs which go with servicing such areas.
Existing businesses in the area of all sorts will cease to operate because insurance will be too expensive or denied altogether and profit margins will further suffer from tightening supply/increased costs due to shipping issues.
The same insurance/logistical problems apply to any attempted functioning of local governments.
Like it or not, insurance and shipping companies decide how (and whether) economies function.
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08-08-2020, 20:18
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Like it or not, insurance and shipping companies decide how (and whether) economies function.
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Thumbs-up.
Some logistical lessons were not learned during the initial Covid roll-out. They might have to be hammered home - again.
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08-08-2020, 20:29
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Thumbs-up.
Some logistical lessons were not learned during the initial Covid roll-out. They might have to be hammered home - again.
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Political power is subject to economic reality.
"Who run Bartertown?"
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