If Democrats ignore health-care polls, midterms will be costly

[Gypsy]

Originally Posted by Broadsword2004

In New York, the legislature are trying to ban salt to an extensive degree in restaurants. Their reasoning? Because it will "help reduce healthcare costs in the state." Yeah, that is what happens when you let the government pay for healthcare, they get to start dictating to you in all sorts of new ways

Since I had some problems a couple of years ago and cut down on salt I've discovered many new spices to enhance foods. If I want/need to salt foods I'll use a good quality sea salt. BUT, that doesn't mean I want or need "big brother" telling me what to do.

When I heard this report yesterday I had two thoughts. One, this is exactly the type of thing that will happen if the debacle known as the health care bill is passed. Two, I don't know Chef Penn...but I kept imagining this voice in the back of my head telling the government in all kinds of colorful ways what they could do with their legislature.

Back to the article, the dims really don't care what the people who put them into office want...which is exactly why it is time to clean house and to keep doing so until the message is heard.

[echoes]

Originally Posted by Gypsy

Since I had some problems a couple of years ago and cut down on salt I've discovered many new spices to enhance foods. If I want/need to salt foods I'll use a good quality sea salt. BUT, that doesn't mean I want or need "big brother" telling me what to do.

When I heard this report yesterday I had two thoughts. One, this is exactly the type of thing that will happen if the debacle known as the health care bill is passed. Two, I don't know Chef Penn...but I kept imagining this voice in the back of my head telling the government in all kinds of colorful ways what they could do with their legislature.

Back to the article, the dims really don't care what the people who put them into office want...which is exactly why it is time to clean house and to keep doing so until the message is heard.

Great post Gypsy, you hit the nail on the head of this argument, IMHO.

And though I too do not know Chef Penn, the ones I do know are all saying the same thing...This, ladies and gentlemen, is The Government trying to espouse what we as citizens can and cannot do!

It is none of thier fucking business weather or not I like to put salt in my recipies, and as salt is my personal "firearm," they better not try and take it away! If only the American Public would wake up and smell the shit that Washington is shoveling...it is all about Them knowing what is best for us.

Bullshit, IMVHO!!!

[Paslode]

Originally Posted by echoes

Great post Gypsy, you hit the nail on the head of this argument, IMHO.

And though I too do not know Chef Penn, the ones I do know are all saying the same thing...This, ladies and gentlemen, is The Government trying to espouse what we as citizens can and cannot do!

It is none of thier fucking business weather or not I like to put salt in my recipies, and as salt is my personal "firearm," they better not try and take it away! If only the American Public would wake up and smell the shit that Washington is shoveling...it is all about Them knowing what is best for us.

Bullshit, IMVHO!!!

Salt and Soft drinks could become more valuable than Gold

As TS said, first salt, then what, when and how much you can eat. Sooner or later your BMI will be a determining factor just like a Credit Score from Experion.

Madness!

[doctom54]

Originally Posted by Paslode

Sooner or later your BMI will be a determining factor just like a Credit Score from Experion.

Madness!

We are all ready there. My office still uses paper charts. We get several request weekly from insurance companies on what is a patients BMI. It is part of the Anthem (old Blue Cross) contract that the BMI has to be documented every visit. They use it for risk stratification and as an excuse to raise rates.
The future is here and it is ugly.
As a side note there is a big push for electronic medical records (EMR). They do NOT help the physician they only allow the insurance company or the government to monitor your BMI or whatever else they like much easier. Your insurance company has legal access to them and they are allowed under HIPPA to share that information with any other insurance company.
"1984" or "Brave New World" take your pick

[Paslode]

Originally Posted by Broadsword2004

Perhaps the Supreme Court will overturn the bill if signed into law? I believe it requires people to purchase health insurance by law or be fined, that might be declared un-Constitutional...?

Probably take a year or two to get it to court, by then the bureaucracy is in place and the damage is done.

[BlackHills]

Originally Posted by Brush Okie

Doubtful. The govt set the precident years ago with requiring car insurance, mandatory helmets on motorcycles and mandatory wearing of seat belts. While it seemed like a great idea at the time what many people did not get then or now is it set case law in allowing the govt to intrude into your life and to protect you from yourself.

Those are all voluntary actions. No one is forced to drive a car or a motorcycle and if they choose to do so then they follow the rules. Those rules are also set by the states rather than by the Feds. I think it's quite a bit different than taking away the choice to buy health insurance.