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Old 01-24-2007, 16:43   #1
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I'll also have to support a platoon again, more guys than an SF medic would have to, so the qty's of what I do carry will have to be proportionate.
You will, however, have three times the number of guys to carry stuff, so I bet it works out, proportionality-wise. You're only one guy, and while the CLSs and buddy aid guys will be able to treat the more basic injuries because of you cross-training them, you only have the ability to administer advanced treatment to one, maybe two guys at a time, regardless of the amount of supplies and equipment you carry. If you have 4 or 5 guys with near simultaneous critical injuries that require the specialized equipment and treatment that only you can give, its very likely someone is going to die, so make sure your triage is very good.
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Old 01-25-2007, 00:48   #2
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You will, however, have three times the number of guys to carry stuff, so I bet it works out, proportionality-wise. You're only one guy, and while the CLSs and buddy aid guys will be able to treat the more basic injuries because of you cross-training them, you only have the ability to administer advanced treatment to one, maybe two guys at a time, regardless of the amount of supplies and equipment you carry. If you have 4 or 5 guys with near simultaneous critical injuries that require the specialized equipment and treatment that only you can give, its very likely someone is going to die, so make sure your triage is very good.
Bingo.

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There's 3 types of casualties.

Those who no matter what you do, will survive and thrive.

Those who no matter what you do, will not survive their wounds.

Those who, if you do the RIGHT thing RIGHT NOW, will survive.



You're going to see all three through your time as a medic. You need to take every training event seriously, so you know what is the right thing, and when is the right time.
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Old 10-21-2007, 18:33   #3
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It all pretty much been said..

Training and cross loading is the best. If all your guys know the basics and have their own stuff you don't have to worry too much. Also talk to you CLS guys, make sure their checking on their guys, and they are carrying some of the minor boo boo stuff band aids, Motrin, ect ect. That will help keep people from bugging you all the time.

One of the things I've noticed is that we medics tend to grossly over pack. Do you really need that ENT kit for a ruck march? How about that IO injector/fast one, sure their all small and useful at times, but they add up and you get a heavy bag thats not much use, the majority of the time. Pack per mission, not for every possible mission.

Several medics I've known and talked with have tried to move away from relying on our aid bag. I keep mine stocked more like a aid station with only advanced stuff just in case and it stays with a vehicle or in a CCP, only carried unless all our gear is moving with us, and thats when you have cross load the heavy things like iv bags, and sacrifice some of your comfort gear.

I try to only carry what I'd really need on my person, just bleeding, and airway. However camel backs changed that a little, I have a large camel back, which leaves me really no need for canteens (bad habit, hard to gauge intake sucking through a straw) but I carry a few IV kits usually only a 500 with supplies, or a 1000 stuffed in my canteen pouches during the summer.

My drop leg kit right now has, (pretty basic,over sized IFAK)
3- CATS, 2 Israeli bandages,1 civilian israeli (smaller), 2 compressed Kerlix, 2 OPA's, 2 14GA needles, 3 Ashermans, 3 petroleum gauze, 2 NPS'a/lube, Some gloves, steri strips. In a pouch next to that I have Quick clot powder and sponge and more 'Z-pak' kerlix. With plenty of room for more. Haven't used it lately so its not stocked full.

Vest is empty at the moment but usually two bleeding pouches, with the same, just a few pre-made windlass's and cravats, and my airway kit has a little more in it face mask, ect..


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Unfortunately, I know the Kifaru will be a constant fight with whatever chodes are in my next CoC.
I used a slightly modified SPEARS ruck at my last unit, the top compartment a big cls bag, and my molle 2 aid bag strapped to the back if I really needed it, never liked putting it in the ruck to hard to get out in a hurry. When they gave me trouble about it I just said it was issue, not to us there but the army does use it. Never made too big of a deal about it.

Also there are a few companys making inserts now, I have a camelback med insert that i use in my alice, its not the greatest you can keep some stuff in your ruck in one place and it easy to pull out even if its packed tight, hard getting back in though..

But really in the end, its not what you carry in your aid bag, its the training and experience that you carry, I've seen some medics do pretty creative stuff due to lack of supplies.

Hope that helps any, although I think I repeated a lot of what was already talked about.
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Old 10-22-2007, 02:44   #4
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You're going to see all three through your time as a medic.

That hit home. I'm glad it did.
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Old 10-24-2007, 01:54   #5
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Every man on my ODA did TC3 prior to Iraq. While in country, I never questioned my 18Ds ( they earned my trust prior, and I was the team daddy). The LAST MOS I wanted to test in combat were my 18Ds. BTW, the SR was well experienced and the JR was a cherry out of the Q less than a year. Both were totally competent. We lived well away from a FOB in a team house, but they were on the nearest FOB when a mas cal was called. The ER docs put each of them in charge of a table. Give me an 18D when I'm fucked up any day.
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Old 11-24-2008, 15:14   #6
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What about a M9 aidbag with the ruck or assault pack on top of that? It seems like it would work. I normally carry my m9 bag on top of my kit when I roll in the truck, so if I have to get out I dont have to worry about the bag getting caught on something(or me getting caught up in the moment and forgetting it). It makes sense to me. And is not horribly uncomfortable.
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Old 11-24-2008, 15:27   #7
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What about a M9 aidbag...
How about you go back and read/reread the email you received when you registered here and follow the directions contained therein.

Dont post again until you have complied; this isnt optional.

As for your post, the discussion was about carrying an aidbag and a RUCK at the same time while dismounted; mounted patrols are an entirely different animal. Also carrying the ruck on top of the aidbag makes no sense at all. Not a dig on you, but considering where you work, you may want to consider reading more about subjects that pertain to the field and post less...

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