What to bring out on a trip

**Peregrino** · 12-28-2006, 13:20

MG - Excellent post/advice. I'm sorry to see you having to reinvent the wheel though. I've been counseled a few times for assembling kits containing most of what you've listed. Course that was in the days of "peacetime" supply accountability and busybodies that had problems with "excess property". x-SF-med - that's a good addendum. Especially the part about the gangbox. I'm assuming weight is no longer the problem it used to be when outloading? You might consider adding a couple furniture dollies and a hand truck to the list. Rolling beats carrying and there's almost never anyone free to help move loaded boxes when the time comes. (Hernias are a mission stopper.) Peregrino

P.S. MG - did you cheat and get an editor to proof spelling and grammar?

Max_Tab · 12-28-2006, 15:22

Couple things to add...

R&U kit, don't forget a couple up/down converters. They are invaluable but you can also usually buy some in country. Don't forget that the GMV come's with a 110 volt power supply so you can charge batteries out on patrol, even if you don't have a generator.

Demo kit, a couple bags of large wowen's hair clips, to attach the firing system to the charge.

x SF med · 12-28-2006, 15:36

Peregrino-
Most of the new gangboxes come with locking wheels now - and a folding pull handle on each end - Knaack makes the best, although not the lightest. Building removeable dividers into the box so stuff doesn't shift too horribly is great too. and level maps for what's where once the dividers are in saves time finding and invetorying items.

I wish I had been an 18C now, you guys get power tools.

Have you played with the idea of one of the electric nail guns, if you have the inverter on hand, it would speed up any construction, they'll handle up to 18d nails now, they're not just for trim, and no compressor.

Air.177 · 12-28-2006, 16:05

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Originally Posted by x SF med

Peregrino-
Most of the new gangboxes come with locking wheels now - and a folding pull handle on each end - Knaack makes the best, although not the lightest. Building removeable dividers into the box so stuff doesn't shift too horribly is great too. and level maps for what's where once the dividers are in saves time finding and invetorying items.

I wish I had been an 18C now, you guys get power tools.

Have you played with the idea of one of the electric nail guns, if you have the inverter on hand, it would speed up any construction, they'll handle up to 18d nails now, they're not just for trim, and no compressor.

One of the gun shops I work for uses Knaack Boxes to transport inventory to/from gunshows, and as a desk/retail counter while at the show.

I ahve also seen Nail guns that were Propane powered, taking a standard camp stove type propane cylinder. I think I saw them in Popular Mechanics a while back.

Good times,
Blake

**Peregrino** · 12-28-2006, 16:46

We used standard pneumatic nailers and air tools. (See the Redneck Engineering thread.) As long as you have an in-line regulator and the appropriate adaptors any vehicle with air brakes will run them. If you only have HMMV varients there's always portable compressors. They keep getting smaller, more powerful and more durable all the time. I'm a big fan of pressurized air; it's always useful for something. I've used the propane powered nailers (Paslode makes a good one) and they're great - as long as you can find the cartridges and keep the batteries charged. Peregrino

x SF med · 12-28-2006, 18:06

If fastening to concrete- Tapcons!! Get the real ones, they come with a bit for piloting and a driver. They come in all sizes and are outstanding.

gtcrispy · 12-28-2006, 18:08

VG,

Thanks for the tips/ideas. I'll share this with my Sr. when I get back to work and add this to my references.

PS. Have you happened to recieve any Oberta Beef Jerkey products recently?

MtnGoat · 12-29-2006, 09:53

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Originally Posted by Max_Tab

Couple things to add...

R&U kit, don't forget a couple up/down converters. They are invaluable but you can also usually buy some in country. Don't forget that the GMV come's with a 110 volt power supply so you can charge batteries out on patrol, even if you don't have a generator.

Demo kit, a couple bags of large wowen's hair clips, to attach the firing system to the charge.

I was going to add this as an Edit on the hair clips. Wish we had some here somethings.

Zip Ties of different lenghts and sizes are valuable when making charges.

Snaquebite · 12-29-2006, 10:16

Don"t forget the oils and lubricants for all those tools...if it requires a specific one take it or otherwise WD40 is a good cover-all.

looking through some "old" packing lists...I'll be back

x SF med · 12-29-2006, 10:33

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Originally Posted by Snaquebite

Don"t forget the oils and lubricants for all those tools...if it requires a specific one take it or other wise WD40 is a good cover-all.

looking through some "old" packing lists...I'll be back

Break Free or some other CLP - WD 40 can get gummy and attracts dust and sand.

**The Reaper** · 12-29-2006, 19:22

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Originally Posted by x SF med

Break Free or some other CLP - WD 40 can get gummy and attracts dust and sand.

Not on a saw blade or to lube hinges, or for about 999 other uses.

The CLP collects dust and grit just as badly, as it is heavier.

TR

x SF med · 12-29-2006, 20:10

Or a couple of cans of 3 in 1 would work too.
Scotchbrite, 0000 steelwool, and some good fine grit emery paper were left out of the R&U kit, all have multiple uses (cleaning and finishing).

MtnGoat · 01-07-2007, 10:50

9 Volt Batts for your CD-450 and RAMS. re-fill your 450s and put 6-8 9 Volts in the top cut out of your RAMS metal box. I would take one full box of 9Vs. They are hard to get here from the SIGDET and Local ones SUX.

Also, for all of you new 18C coming from the Course. Pass the word; we have TDFDs and your istructors need to cover them more!! I use have and use them!! There not GONE and you will or can see them in your future.

7624U · 01-07-2007, 12:47

Ive always been a fan of the 18B and 18C combined tool sets, it cuts down on boxes and space, the only thing the 18B needs in addition is a rubber mallet
punch set and a Hex wrench set. all the rest of the tools the 18C already has in his kit like screwdrivers, pliers,wire cutters, bolt cutters, and heavy hammers,
all teams should have a air compresser now days, they can be used for everything. not a fan of rechargable tools they always run out of juice when you need them the most, Air power is much more dependable, it just makes more noise is all. and of course your little honda portable generator.