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Old 01-15-2014, 07:16   #616
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The issue isn't about crime so don't try to rationalize the argument. It's about government control and the registration/confiscation of arms. Why? Because they can't control the population without seizing the arms. I can't believe the NRA still doesn't get it. They constantly prop up the argument of crime and blah blah blah of the law abiding citizens who will do what the government tells them to do based on being lawful citizens. What if nobody stood in line to register their arms? You want to be policed? Then go get in line, you will also get a free shower and warm meal. Oh but I have too much to lose so I must comply. Anyone heard about the Colonist standing in line to register their weapons? Neither did I. Crazy ain't it?
No disrespect meant by this statement: I believe the NRA gets it and has for a long, long time. Any Association that is that large, powerful and filthy rich, and spends as much time in D.C. as they do? C'mon, they understand it all.
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Old 01-15-2014, 13:30   #617
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No disrespect meant by this statement: I believe the NRA gets it and has for a long, long time. Any Association that is that large, powerful and filthy rich, and spends as much time in D.C. as they do? C'mon, they understand it all.
None taken, but money corrupts and the NRA in my opinion plays chess with the political hacks in DC. Gun Owners of America is, again in my opinion, an organization that will stand fast on the Constitution and not waiver. If you give them an inch they take a mile. We have already seen it the encroachment over the years since the Firearms Act (forgot the year). What defines "Infringement?" BTW, I am a Life Member of the NRA and I do hope they win their cases, the issue is there shouldn't be any cases.
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Old 01-15-2014, 18:06   #618
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Help! Send Guns! - John Marshall

From The American Rifleman (Nov40)
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Old 01-15-2014, 18:27   #619
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From The American Rifleman (Nov40)
An interesting article and great reminder.

Compare and contrast the British experience described in the subject article to our American experience - one of a gun culture...

"You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind each blade of grass." Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto

ETA although the quote above is often attributed to Yamamoto there seems to be some discrepancy whether Yamamoto said this...I don't know. But, I do know that there is unquestioned pragmatism in such an observation.
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Old 01-16-2014, 12:24   #620
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I guess the Brits already had their version of the Firearms Act of 1968, the SAFE ACT, Save the Children in Theaters Act, The Get in Line and Register Your Gun Act and Australia's Turn in Your Gun or Else Act. Don't forget the Jews in the Warsaw Ghetto Get On The Train Act. OK I'll put it in pink.
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Old 01-16-2014, 21:41   #621
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Hollywood producer to attack NRA in new film.

An anti-NRA movie is being planned by Hollywood producer Harvey Weinstein and will star Meryl Streep.

I am a Meryl Streep fan no longer.

And Weinstein? He said that if he would have been alive during the Holocaust he would have armed himself against the Nazis. What a hypocrite.


http://www.newsmax.com/TheWire/anti-...1/16/id/547460

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Old 01-17-2014, 17:38   #622
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An excellent article

The following is an excellent article. I must admit I was thrown off a bit by the title; but when I read the entire article and the author's rationale, I couldn't help but agree.


Why I Cannot Support Concealed Carry Weapons Permits (And Why You Shouldn’t Either!)
Posted By Mac Slavo on Jan 17, 2014

John Filippidis is a Concealed Carry Weapons permit holder, which means he can carry his firearm on his person or in his car legally. He followed all applicable laws in the State of Florida to obtain his permit, and has been a lawful citizen since being “given the right” to retain a firearm when in public.

Recently he was driving through the State of Maryland on a family vacation when he was stopped, for no apparent reason, by a law enforcement officer who had trailed his car for at least ten minutes.

According to his family, this is how the stop went down:
The officer was from the Transportation Authority Police. ???
He asked Filippidis for his license and registration. Around ten minutes later, he returned and asked John to exit his vehicle.
“You own a gun,” the officer says. “Where is it?”
Filippidis told the officer his gun was at home in his safe.

Apparently the officer didn’t believe Filippidis, because he began questioning his wife, Kally, next:
“Your husband owns a gun. Where is it?”

First Kally said, “I don’t know.” Retelling it later to the Tampa Tribune, she said, “And that’s all I should have said.” Instead, attempting to be helpful, she added, “Maybe in the glove... Maybe in the console. I’m scared of it. I don’t want to have anything to do with it. I might shoot right through my foot.”

That’s when things escalated. The officer confronted Filippidis:
“You’re a liar. You’re lying to me. Your family says you have it. Where is the gun? Tell me where it is and we can resolve this right now.”

Of course a gun could not be produced, since it was home in Filippidis’ safe.
Because Mrs. Filippidis told a different story from her husband, the officer said he had probable cause to search the vehicle. And he did just that. He called for backup and they literally took the vehicle apart in an effort to find the weapon that Mr. Filippidis left in his safe back at home in Florida.

The gun, of course, was never found. After 90 minutes of having their personal property violated, the Filippidis family was released without charge or citation. Since Mr. Filippidis was driving according to all traffic laws, there was absolutely no reason to pull him over. And this is where our problem starts. Why did he get pulled over in the first place?

It turns out that when you register your weapon as a CCW holder you get flagged and tagged in the system. And, apparently this crosses over state lines, because the Transportation Authority Officer who pulled Mr. Filippidis over did so because he suspected there was a firearm in the car. That’s it – there was no probable cause of wrong doing and no other possible reason this car should have been pulled over.

Remember that whole ridiculous argument about registration of guns eventually leading to confiscation like it has in so many other countries in the past? Turns out there may be something to that. Mr. Filippidis and his family were, by all accounts, considered as, and treated like, criminals for legally owning a firearm, even though that firearm was not in their possession.

The chief of TAP has apologized to the Filippidis family, but no action has been taken against the officer that, in no uncertain terms, illegally detained and violated the rights of this family and did so at gunpoint.

As noted by Karl Denninger at The Market Ticker, this illegal stop highlights the key problem with CCW permits and gun registration initiatives in general, and he argues why such registration requirements need to be repealed.

Denninger: Why I Cannot Support CCW Permits
There is only one solution to this problem folks — it’s none of the government’s damned business if you’re carrying a weapon or not. It’s none of the government’s damned business right up until you do something unlawful with it, at which point it becomes both reasonable and appropriate to search, arrest, charge, whatever — for the unlawful act.

But the bottom line here is that the fact that this individual registered his ownership and intent to carry for personal protection of himself and his family in the places where it is lawful to do so with the government meant that he was unlawfully stopped, detained and searched by a ****head who has faced no penalty for the violation of peoples' Constitutional right to be left alone absent evidence of, or probable cause to suspect, actual unlawful activity.

The only solution to this is Constitutional Carry. That is, you have the right under the 2nd Amendment to carry, either openly or concealed, a firearm without applying for any sort of permit or asking for permission from the government first. It is only if and when you commit a crime with a weapon present and in some way related to the offense that the government gains the ability to intervene in yourpersonal decision to not be a victim and protect both yourself and others near you, most-particularly your family.

There is no means to solve this problem any other way, as despite whatever sanctions Florida may apply to its peace officers for abusive acts of this sort, the very act of registration exposes you to abuses by other political subdivisions in the United States. Therefore, the only means of stopping this crap is in fact to get rid of any such requirement of registration — period.

We’ll repeat that again in case you missed it: The only solution to this is Constitutional Carry.

Can we all agree that a criminal who intends to do harm to others will never register their firearm? They will be carrying concealed regardless of the laws of the state in which they reside. So, if the intent of these CCW laws is to prevent gun crimes instigated by gangs and others, then it is a total failure.

What these laws do in actuality is restrict the ability of law abiding citizens to own self defense weapons and, as the case in Maryland shows, to track those citizens across the country. Of course, the government would never overstep its bounds like the peace officer in Maryland did. That was just an isolated incident, right?

They’ll have us believe that officials having knowledge of every gun owner in their state, city or neighborhood poses no danger to the freedom of American citizens. Perhaps today it doesn’t (unless of course you’re John Filippidis on a family vacation). But consider what will happen should more restrictive legislation be passed – or if the President of the United States signs an Executive Order outlawing the ownership of certain types of firearms or their accessories.

It should be crystal clear: Gun registration in any form, even CCW Concealed Carry Weapons permits, pose an immediate and distinct danger to the liberty of the American people.

Editor’s Note: If you want to voice your concern over this illegal search and seizure, even though there was an apology (and I suggest firing the officer since he is supposed to know the law), here is the contact information for Maryland Transportation Authority:
2310 Broening Highway, Suite 150 – Baltimore, MD 21224
Local: (410) 537-1000 – Out of Area: 1 (866) 713-1596
mdta@mdtransportationauthority.com


http://freedomoutpost.com/2014/01/su...ouldnt-either/
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Old 01-17-2014, 22:39   #623
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A two sentence federal law would take care of that BS. Any legal owner could carry ccw anywhere. No it won't happen, and not for the right reasons - for control (attempt to).

The protect the children statement you hear from political and t.v. folks is a cop out
. Simple generalized statement to give them a 'winning' fallback for those disagreeing with their views. They have similar ones for being racist or being against women. Hearing these should turn a light on.

Anyone see Wiener on the Kelly File? He's a real nut ...

Remember the people put in office are supposed reflect and support your beliefs and morals, what they do also reflects on you and your judgment or lack thereof.
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Old 01-23-2014, 10:22   #624
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Amazing & Eloquent Constitutional Law & Our History Shows Federal gun Control Is Unla

Amazing & Eloquent Constitutional Law & Our History Shows Federal gun Control Is Unlawful

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FasYi_vqdWY#t=375
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FasYi_vqdWY#t=375
I really like this lady....
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I really like this lady....
So do I.
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She should be recruited by every attorney arguing for the 2nd Amendment.
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Old 01-23-2014, 16:19   #628
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FasYi_vqdWY#t=375
Can I get an Amen !

She is a quite articulate speaker.
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Old 01-23-2014, 16:55   #629
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Right to the point, most men today have no balls.
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Well, you "nullification" guys must have no problem with what O and Holder are doing, then. How about what CA, NY, and IL will do if we ever get control back? In fact, lib judges use nullification every day. Prop 8 in CA, voted in by the "people", was tossed by a judge. Why have laws? Heck, why have a constitution if you are just going to ignore the parts you don't like?

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