Colin Powell: Why We Serve

[akv]

Originally Posted by Zoniedriver

"coterie of sycophantic asshats"!

Game, Set, and Match!

Originally Posted by AFchic

I thought it was a wonderful read. Thanks Richard!

Same here, thanks Richard.

[alright4u]

Originally Posted by ZonieDiver

I enjoyed it as well, and found it quite fitting for this upcoming Veterans' Day.

Sigaba - I enjoyed this phrase in your response: "collection of sycophantic asshats"

However you could have made the phrase worthy of Spiro Agnew had you said "coterie of sycophantic asshats"!

You got me on line- now fire your best shot.

[afchic]

Originally Posted by alright4u

Ask SGM Moore if he is still alive. He was White star.

Obviously you have more of a background on him than I do. I still appreciate the sentiments behind his words.

[Sigaba]

Originally Posted by Dusty

Sig, this quote of yours: "Could it be that many Republicans figured out a bit sooner than others (including myself) that there was more sizzle than substance to Governor Palin and didn't want to risk having her as the president?" understandably indicates that you didn't vote for the Palin ticket.

QP Dusty--

For my own peace of mind, I'd largely stopped venting on PS.COM about the 2008 election by the time you arrived. We (the GOP) lost. They won. Time to look to 2012. Was my frame of mind. (A member or two of this BB have had to endure some ranting PMs.)

Originally Posted by Dusty

Powell voted for [the Democratic Party's nominee] because [the Democratic Party's nominee] is black. Period.

I often wonder (rhetorically) why is this accusation made about GEN Powell and not about other members of the GOP establishment who also broke ranks with the party and endorsed the Democratic Party's nominee. What is the logic of the argument? Why is it not consistently applied to others who crossed over from red to blue? What is the evidence (i.e., a letter, memorandum of conversation, an eyewitness account, or even triple hearsay twice removed) of GEN Powell trading horses? Or are we now the same as our friends on the opposite side of the aisle and hold an accusation to be the same thing as proof?

[Dusty]

Originally Posted by Sigaba

QP Dusty--

For my own peace of mind, I'd largely stopped venting on PS.COM about the 2008 election by the time you arrived. We (the GOP) lost. They won. Time to look to 2012. Was my frame of mind. (A member or two of this BB have had to endure some ranting PMs.)

I often wonder (rhetorically) why is this accusation made about GEN Powell and not about other members of the GOP establishment who also broke ranks with the party and endorsed the Democratic Party's nominee. What is the logic of the argument? Why is it not consistently applied to others who crossed over from red to blue? What is the evidence (i.e., a letter, memorandum of conversation, an eyewitness account, or even triple hearsay twice removed) of GEN Powell trading horses? Or are we now the same as our friends on the opposite side of the aisle and hold an accusation to be the same thing as proof?

C'mon, Bro. You're a good enough historian to know the importance of Powell's stance at the crux of the selection process.

"Simplify..."

[Richard]

Originally Posted by Dusty

Powell voted for Obama because Obama is black. Period. That's racist, and I abhor racism.

Hmmmmmmm....

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27266223...ranscript-oct/

And so it goes...

Richard

[alright4u]

Sorry. I knew a great S3 in A Co 6th Group who had been in the Americal. T.L. Smith had been an EM/NCO and was a master blaster after MFFP course. He had very little good to say about that unit in 69 as an O-3

Powell goes from a BDE XO to DIV. Then he is a BN CO in 73. Try the most sought after BN in Korea. The 31st. He was not much and I am serious. He was on the AA fast track.

[Dusty]

Originally Posted by Richard

Hmmmmmmm....

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27266223...ranscript-oct/

And so it goes...

Richard

Richard, I've been aware of that interview since it happened.

It's obvious what he did, and there's no way to sugar coat it.

[Richard]

I only met GEN Powell once when he briefed us in the DAO at the AmEmbassy-Bonn while SecState Baker was meeting with Amb Walters just prior to beginning offensive operations in GW1. GEN powell was no-nonsense impressive, and our allies and enemies thought very highly of the honesty and trustworthiness of the GHWB-Baker-Powell team.

So did we.

And so it goes...

Richard

[Dusty]

Originally Posted by Richard

I only met GEN Powell once when he briefed us in the DAO at the AmEmbassy-Bonn while SecState Baker was meeting with Amb Walters just prior to beginning offensive operations in GW1. GEN powell was no-nonsense impressive, and our allies and enemies thought very highly of the GHWB-Baker-Powell team.

So did we.

And so it goes...

Richard

So did I.

That was when he worked for a Republican; before he endorsed a Democrat.

[ZonieDiver]

Originally Posted by alright4u

You got me on line- now fire your best shot.

I'm no fan of Powell. Don't hate him either. I'm not privy to information about his career from NCOs or EM who served with him. I was just responding to the Veterans' Day piece he wrote, and I'll stand by my comments.

The "collection/coterie of sycophantic asshats" was a reference by Sigaba, which I modified, and was made in reference to members of President Obama's administration.

I'm confused as to your meaning... but I'm often less focused anymore.

[Richard]

Originally Posted by Dusty

So did I.

That was when he worked for a Republican; before he endorsed a Democrat.

I see.

Richard

[Sigaba]

Originally Posted by Dusty

"Simplify..."

As I recall, the sequence of events was that the GOP nominated McCain and Palin, the left and elements of the center and center-right went BSC over Palin. Then, as Palin did her thing, elements of the GOP started to veer left.

As a Republican, would I have preferred GEN Powell to have kept his views to himself? You betcha. As a person with a reasonable set of critical thinking skills, am I surprised that he, like other Republicans, took a closer look at the McCain / Palin campaign and said "Zoiks"? No. Now, some immediately concluded that Powell's endorsement was because of race. Others have concluded that Powell's decision was based upon his sense of nationalism. Others think that Powell's decision reflected the same lack of political acumen that earned him a lot of heartache when he was the secretary of state.

I am inclined towards a combination of the second and third reasons. If someone presents proof--rather than speculation--to substantiate the first reason, I'll take a look.

[alright4u]

Originally Posted by ZonieDiver

I'm no fan of Powell. Don't hate him either. I'm not privy to information about his career from NCOs or EM who served with him. I was just responding to the Veterans' Day piece he wrote, and I'll stand by my comments.

The "collection/coterie of sycophantic asshats" was a reference by Sigaba, which I modified, and was made in reference to members of President Obama's administration.

I'm confused as to your meaning... but I'm often less focused anymore.

A fool can make a Vet's day speech. Powell did did very little by my standards or any SF man's standards's in RVN. Our CCS XO was a major in late 68-Feb 69. He was on his third tour.

Powell, a lousy ROTC grad, gets his ticket punched better then any academy man then. Unreal. And Dawkins was just a BG. Had you been a CPT or above in 70 in college- you might have seen AA at work.You could not throw a Captain or above of color out of the Army.

[alright4u]

Originally Posted by akv

Game, Set, and Match!




Same here, thanks Richard.

http://www.usvetdsp.com/story13.htm

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