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Old 10-16-2010, 02:44   #46
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Ok, you might need to explain that one to me. I have no idea what the Ka'ba is.
The Ka’ba in Mecca, Circumambulating: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6VHhkt3fAM

The Black Stone:
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“…the Stone itself has supernatural powers. Some hold that it fell from the sky during the time of Adam and Eve, and that it has the power to cleanse worshippers of their sins by absorbing them into itself. They say that the Black Stone was once a pure and dazzling white and it has turned black because of the sins it has absorbed over the years…”

“…On the Day of Judgement, the Stone will testify before God (Allah) in favor of those who kissed it…”
http://www.sacred-destinations.com/s...bia/mecca-kaba

http://www.crystalinks.com/blackstone.html


The following gets straight to the point and the first Arab must certainly have a fatwa:

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsGvSCNC1D8

http://www.answering-islam.org/Muham...e_kissing.html




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Shia have built Ka’ba’s in Iraq and Iran…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEO3UcSP_sA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFUDw6J0G4c

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Old 10-16-2010, 22:27   #47
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“…the Stone itself has supernatural powers. Some hold that it fell from the sky during the time of Adam and Eve, and that it has the power to cleanse worshippers of their sins by absorbing them into itself. They say that the Black Stone was once a pure and dazzling white and it has turned black because of the sins it has absorbed over the years…”
Or could be it just needs a good cleaning.
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Old 10-17-2010, 08:52   #48
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Thanks for that TRock. I see some of the parallels you were talking about. That was some interesting material. When I watched the first video, of the circumambulating, the first thought was idolatry. Then, the narrartor in the second video just layed it out. His explanations of an ancient sexually based religion and their inclusion in modern Islam were a little surprising.

Not understanding Arabic, I found the comments on the latter videos more interesting, especially one stating "I know the Shia are evil but is this real?" , talking about the mini-Ka'ba built supposedly in Iran. It is interesting that one Muslim is supposed to think of any other Muslim as a brother, yet the Shia and Sunni seem to be at polar opposites, or is my understanding flawed. Actually, I guess a good parallel would be the views of Catholics and Protestants a few hundred years ago.
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Old 10-17-2010, 21:36   #49
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Thanks for that TRock. I see some of the parallels you were talking about. That was some interesting material. When I watched the first video, of the circumambulating, the first thought was idolatry.
You're welcome Sir, the same thought crossed my mind too...

The similarities between the pagan rituals (star/stone worship) of the Harranians (Sabians) and the Mandaeans - performed at the City of Harran - which included praying five times a day as well as the ceremonial washing before each prayer, is virtually the same Islamic ritual as practiced by Muslims today.

Originally, the Quraish neglected the Ka'ba of Mecca and participated in the Hajj to the Ka'ba of Ta'if.

What's interesting as well, is the similarities between the Ka'ba of Mecca and the Ka'ba of Ta’if, or the Ka'ba of Ellat, also known as the Ka'ba of the Sun, which is significantly older than the Ka'ba of Mecca. The Arabs of Quraish, from which Muhammed came, venerated this Ka'ba. The Istar ( استار ) of the Ka'ba of Ellat (Ta'if), also covered sacred stones, similar to what is found at the Ka'ba of Mecca today.

The pre-Islamic Ka'ba of Ta'if (Ellat) had a large "Black Stone" containing mystical powers in which the people of Ta'if circled, just like the current day Ka'ba and "Black Stone" of Mecca...

There's something about the stones...

The following book gives great detail regarding magical "Black Stones" and other ancient rituals:
http://www.amazon.com/Islam-Light-Hi...7371823&sr=8-1
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(Reuters) - "The Simpsons" just got a blessing from the Vatican.

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE69H54K20101018
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Old 10-19-2010, 13:44   #51
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Peter Griffin from Family Guy is too, but I suspect that the Pope won't be issuing any sort of similar announcement concerning that show
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Looks like the creator of "the 99" has a fatwa on his head...lol


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ISIL calls for killing ‘The 99’ creator

KUWAIT: The creator of an Islam inspired popular comic series said that he takes death threats made by the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL) and Al-Qaeda seriously. Following their recent call to kill former MP Waleed Al-Tabtabaei, ISIL has called for killing psychiatrist Dr Nayef Al-Mutawa, the creator of ‘The 99’ series as they deemed it slanderous to Islam because it imitates the 99 names of Almighty Allah.
>. http://news.kuwaittimes.net/isil-cal...ng-99-creator/


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Keep in mind though....Lol......, Allah is the greatest of all deceivers....

Wamakaroo wamakara Allahu waAllahu khayru al-makireena!

Lol.

Qur'an 3:54—And they (the unbelievers) planned to deceive, and Allah planned to deceive (the unbelievers), and Allah is the best of deceivers.

Qur'an 7:99—Are they then safe from Allah's deception? No one feels safe from Allah's deception except those that shall perish.

Qur'an 8:30—And (remember) when the unbelievers plotted deception against you (O Muhammad), to imprison you, or kill you, or expel you. They plotted deception, but Allah also plotted deception; and Allah is the best of deceivers.

> http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Allah_the_Best_Deceiver

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