Top Secret Clearance

11A Samurai · 02-02-2006, 22:50

I did a search on this site but could not find any info. If I missed it I apologize. The prerequisite for an officer to attend SFAS/SFQC is to be eligible for a TS clearance. So my questions are:

1. Do all 18A's hold a TS clearance?
2. If so, at what point do they apply for one? Upon assignment to an A-team? prior to the officer MOS phase? Some time during the pipeline?
3. Will holding a TS clearance already have any affect on the selection to attend SFAS?
I only ask because I will be applying for a TS clearance soon and was curious if this will affect attendance to SFAS in any way.

Thank you all for the information provided on this site. Keep up the great work!

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BAC-45-05, RS- 09-05

jatx · 02-03-2006, 04:16

jatx,
Unless you are in the pipeline or are currently SF or SF intel don't be giving out advice based on "what you heard".

Team Sergeant

**Team Sergeant** · 02-03-2006, 08:28

The only impact a TS has on a SF soldier is when they are not able to obtain or possess one.

You will not be selected for a mission based simply on the fact you possess a TS. Unlike the conventional military, SF’ers holding a TS are a dime a dozen.

Applying for a TS while attending SFAS should have zero bearing on your student status.

Team Sergeant
Former NCOIC
S-2, 1st SFGA

QRQ 30 · 02-03-2006, 08:37

T.D. nailed it. It doesn't matter who you are/were. Any access is ultimately based ipon a need to know. If you don't have a need to know you can have the highest burn before reading access right up to the Divine Creator and you ain't getting shit. If there is something on your records to preclude a clearance it will inhibit you. Background checks are done on all applicants - at least they were.

strat · 11-13-2006, 09:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Team Sergeant

The only impact a TS has on a SF soldier is when they are not able to obtain or possess one.

You will not be selected for a mission based simply on the fact you possess a TS. Unlike the conventional military, SF’ers holding a TS are a dime a dozen.

Applying for a TS while attending SFAS should have zero bearing on your student status.

Team Sergeant
Former NCOIC
S-2, 1st SFGA

Forgive the bumping of an older thread, but I thought it more appropriate to post here instead of creating a new one.

To serve in SF my understanding is that you only require a SECRET clearance. Will most ODA's require you to apply for a TS clearance in order to serve, or are there SF soldiers in the field with only a SECRET clearance?

You said SF soldiers with TS clearance are a dime a dozen. I am just unclear about whether that is because their MOS requires it (intel, commander etc) or because the ODA requires it.

Thank you gentlemen!

**Team Sergeant** · 11-13-2006, 09:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by strat

Forgive the bumping of an older thread, but I thought it more appropriate to post here instead of creating a new one.

To serve in SF my understanding is that you only require a SECRET clearance. Will most ODA's require you to apply for a TS clearance in order to serve, or are there SF soldiers in the field with only a SECRET clearance?

You said SF soldiers with TS clearance are a dime a dozen. I am just unclear about whether that is because their MOS requires it (intel, commander etc) or because the ODA requires it.

Thank you gentlemen!

Strat,

You're lucky, I had my first cup of coffee today. Now go and re-read the rules and comply.

Team Sergeant

strat · 11-13-2006, 10:38

My sincere appologies

. · 02-06-2006, 18:36

What about TS eligibility?

I understand that naturalized citizens are still eligible for SECRET level clearances, but what about top secret clearances?

How will this apply in my situation: I was born in Russia, then immigrated to Isreal, and am now living in Canada. I'd be willing to give those other citizenships up in order to be commissioned, but will it still affect my TS clearance since I'm not a "native" American.

I'd really appreciate any and all help, thanks in advance.

**Team Sergeant** · 02-06-2006, 19:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Choose

What about TS eligibility?

I understand that naturalized citizens are still eligible for SECRET level clearances, but what about top secret clearances?

How will this apply in my situation: I was born in Russia, then immigrated to Isreal, and am now living in Canada. I'd be willing to give those other citizenships up in order to be commissioned, but will it still affect my TS clearance since I'm not a "native" American.

I'd really appreciate any and all help, thanks in advance.

A tough case.
Each application is adjudicated on an individual level.
I'd wait until you are in need of a TS before you throw in the towel.

TS

**The Reaper** · 02-06-2006, 20:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by Choose

What about TS eligibility?

I understand that naturalized citizens are still eligible for SECRET level clearances, but what about top secret clearances?

How will this apply in my situation: I was born in Russia, then immigrated to Isreal, and am now living in Canada. I'd be willing to give those other citizenships up in order to be commissioned, but will it still affect my TS clearance since I'm not a "native" American.

I'd really appreciate any and all help, thanks in advance.

You are looking a bridge too far.

I would first find a recruiter and talk to him. Yes, you may have to give up one or more of your citizenships, but do you want to be an SF soldier, or a jet-setter?

In the interim, you would be better off concerning yourself with your PT scores.

TR

02-07-2006, 13:28

I thought you had to renounce all other citizenships if you wanted to become an officer, TS or not.

If enlisting, I think you have to apply for naturalization before re-enlisting - I am not entirely sure if they also require renouncement in that case.

Please correct me if I'm wrong... which I'm sure you would.

Martin

SnafuRacer · 02-07-2006, 14:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin

I thought you had to renounce all other citizenships if you wanted to become an officer, TS or not.

Yes, you do. All about allegiance and loyalty and such.

I am facing this process now. I want to get rid of it, but my former embassy is not the easiest to deal with. I was at the consulate in NYC yesterday, and got the rejection/go elsewhere speech. So now, I just have to deal with it personally with the recruiter, write a letter that I renounce my other citizenship, and see where it goes. Hopefully, the army's adjudication process is easier for prospective/in-service candidates than it is for civilians.