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Old 01-24-2006, 04:12   #1
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Five(5) New AD BN's

http://today.reuters.com/news/newsar...ARY.xml&rpc=22

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Old 01-24-2006, 06:36   #2
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Sounds like we are going full circle again. They cut down the number of teams per company because they couldn't man the force a couple of times. I like the idea, I just hope that they can man, equip, sustain the force and take good care of what they have on the books now. Been there before and I sure hope they do a better job of it this time. I have had close up and intimate "conversations" with those that wish upon a star to make things happen and for some reason think that this is akin to making corn flakes.
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Old 01-24-2006, 08:30   #3
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The same story ran on MSNBC today. It's slightly more in depth.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10995787/
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Old 01-24-2006, 09:34   #4
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I do not think this is possible without lowering the standards. There are already more SF soldiers as a percentage of total soldiers in the Army than ever before.

We already have rewickered the Q Course to allow virtually anyone with a hope of making it through the pipeline to attend, just to try and better fill the AD SF units to their authorized levels. That bumped the annual graduates from the SFQC up to 750. With the continuing loss of AD SF personnel to the world of private contractors, retirements, better paying jobs, etc., I see no way that the current end strength of the Army and the eligible pool of enlistees eligible for the 18X option will be adequate for the increases they mention for SF. We will be lucky to be able to field the force at 90% of authorized strength. The recently discussed decision to put SFQC students into the 18F program and to deny 18F attenedance to 18Ds and Es in the future are indicative of a force experiencing contraction, not expansion.

The same is true for adding another squadron to a special mission unit. Can't be done with the current pool of applicants without changing the standards.

What they can do is add support personnel and send over the Marine element, which will have about the same effect as adding a brigade of the 82nd Airborne to USSOCOM would have. More competition for already short infil platforms without adding the language, area orientation, maturity, specialized skills, etc. that SF brings. This appears to me to be a bad idea intended to make more numbers without the requisite skills. Marines are great. They just do not currently have the skills and training to be SF replacements.

The smart thing to do would have been for the Klintons to have not eliminated two Reserve SF Groups from the force structure when they were in charge. I would be surprised if you could not man an additional two NG SFGs today with willing enlistees.

Just my .02, YMMV.

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Old 01-24-2006, 10:13   #5
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I would be surprised if you could not man an additional two NG SFGs today with willing enlistees.
This would seem to be the smartest thing to do. Wouldn't be too hard to get states to jump on board for that and there is probably a large enough pool of qualified individuals to pretty much staff them up. Just my 02.
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Old 01-24-2006, 12:20   #6
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Unbelieveable

The authors of the QDR clealry don't get it. I am even more concened that SOCOM would allow them to publish such a document without some kind of push-back. It seems as if we are abandoning our core values (i.e. "SOF cannot be mass produced"; "SOF cannot be created after emergencies occur"). I am personally and professionally dismayed.
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Old 01-24-2006, 12:21   #7
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This would seem to be the smartest thing to do. Wouldn't be too hard to get states to jump on board for that and there is probably a large enough pool of qualified individuals to pretty much staff them up. Just my 02.
Not to argue with either of you with respect to the feasability of standing up 2 more NG SF Groups, but there are manning issues with the two we currently have or so it seems from the conversations I have had with the NG Advisor in the recent past. I know there is bearly enough ODA between Aco and Bco 1/20th to make one company...

Also, Bco 3/20th recently relocated from Va to NC partially because Va was tired of spending money on SF and wanted to trade them out for MP's.

I think two more NG groups would be great but again I think we need to fully man and equip the two we currently have. Its a shame the Klinton's cut the RC groups indeed. There would be less of a strain on the AD groups had there been two more RC groups...


just my .02.

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