01-23-2006, 18:41
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Somewhere a True Believer is training to kill you. He is training with minimal food or water, in austere conditions, training day and night. The only thing clean on him is his weapon and he made his web gear. He doesn't worry about what workout to do - his ruck weighs what it weighs, his runs end when the enemy stops chasing him. This True Believer is not concerned about 'how hard it is;' he knows either he wins or dies. He doesn't go home at 17:00, he is home.
He knows only The Cause.
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01-23-2006, 18:52
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01-23-2006, 19:06
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LINES 1 and 2 are taught at Ph-II. Personally I thought for the time spent on the system it was a waste of time...but what do I know.
Too much step here, twist this, kick here...
I prefer the monkey stomp to the sweep and stomp!!...
Crip
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01-23-2006, 19:06
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Anyone call him on it yet?
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01-23-2006, 19:17
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This is a joke right? 
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01-30-2006, 21:46
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No. Ron Donvito is legit. He's trained several SFQCs, and been contracted by 7th SFG to run courses as well. While I was the 1st SWTG(A) S1, the Group Commander contracted him to run LINES instructor training in the SFQC. Was good to get Warrior Skills like this into the SFQC...gotta have it...it's in the song right? Anyway, the Group Commander had Mr. Donvito run a course for him and his Battalion Commanders to get them qualified as well (I suspect they enjoyed hurting one another).
LINES isn't a bad foundation for someone who's had no training. It's designed for military units to be able to train large group of soldiers in hand to hand combat by getting them in, well, lines. The applications are designed to work when you're smoked and wearing combat gear. When C/3/7 SFG contracted him to run a course for them, they had to do the training in their assault gear, complete with body armor.
LINES "stands" for Linear Infighting Neural-override Engagement System. It's basic idea is to break an arm and shake so the nervous system shuts down and goes into survival/self-preservation mode. Arm Bars and head stomps are key.
He runs CCI in Fayetteville, NC and last time I was there, any SF Qualified guy was welcome to train at his facilities for free.
JM
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01-30-2006, 21:52
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I watched Ron with C/3/7 and Training Group and his skills were sharp. He also seemed to be a pretty good teacher.
The one thing was that he ran training at full speed and there were a lot of fat lips, busted noses, and black eyes, as well as the usual muscle aches and pains, but the application was pretty impressive.
TR
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01-30-2006, 22:05
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The man has no neck.
I'd be impressed with anyone who could put a choke on him.
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01-31-2006, 04:42
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Originally Posted by The Reaper
The one thing was that he ran training at full speed
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That's how Krav Maga is taught
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06-27-2007, 22:12
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Originally Posted by The Reaper
I watched Ron with C/3/7 and Training Group and his skills were sharp. He also seemed to be a pretty good teacher.
The one thing was that he ran training at full speed and there were a lot of fat lips, busted noses, and black eyes, as well as the usual muscle aches and pains, but the application was pretty impressive.
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I was there. 1/2 the company couldn't pull a trigger the next week....ouch
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02-29-2008, 00:30
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Originally Posted by The Reaper
I watched Ron with C/3/7 and Training Group and his skills were sharp. He also seemed to be a pretty good teacher.
The one thing was that he ran training at full speed and there were a lot of fat lips, busted noses, and black eyes, as well as the usual muscle aches and pains, but the application was pretty impressive.
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I was in C 3/7 when Ron came down and gave us the courses....it was some good fun beating on each other!  Good PT as well. Even with the phrase "the safety for this is...." there were still broken noses, ribs or other mashed parts.
Again, as any H2H system it will have it's critics but take the good from it and drive on...better than sitting on one's rear doing nothing.
In the end a true SF soldier does not accept just one method as the end all in anything he does. Whether it is shooting techniques, making commo or the myriad of skill sets required of a QP; we still look for ways to expand and improve. So you new guys learn all you can and find other stuff out there that some of us older guys haven't discovered yet and bring it to the table.
Take care,
JM
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